delgado for HOF??

[Suigin406]

Just throwing this topic out there...

ESPN article

.282 career avg, 1700 hits, 400 homers, 1300 rbis

He's always been fairly consistent through his career and while I've been a big fan of his, I don't think he has enough to make it...can i ask what u guys think of his credentials and what the standard seems to be for HOF 1Bs??

His contract goes for another 2 years, so even with that, can he make it?? Or am I way off here for even thinking he has a shot?? Discuss...

[Wynton]

I'm not a stats guy, but my first guess is that he would not be a serious candidate unless he gets to 500 home runs.

[New001]

I imagine he'll get some votes, but I doubt he'd get in without something big happening over the rest of his career. He played too long in Toronto and came just in time to miss their championship runs, plus he's a 1B in a very prolific offensive time period. 1B like Frank Thomas, McGwire, Palmeiro are all ahead of him.

Then again, he's "only" 34 and potentially has a number of years left.

[Pudge714]

He doesn't deserve it but if he can get 500hr's he will probably get in.

[Needle77]

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HOF Standards: Batting - 38.0 (168) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting - 100.5 (141) (Likely HOFer > 100)

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Thats from baseball-reference.com. Thats with his stats this year. He has two years left on his contract like you said. A couple of 35+ homeruns years could really do alot for him. 500 of course is the target number. I think if he had won the MVP award in 2003, and I think he deserved it over A-Rod, it could possibly be a whole different discussion.

All in all, the last few years of his career will determine it, if he stays healthy and continues to belt homeruns, he's in on my ballot. It's a sin though, he's an amazing leader and he does alot of small things that are just not seen by the fan.

[Pudge714]

Needle,
A-Rod had a better year in 2003 because he played SS.
If he won it would have a much better shot at geting in the HOF.

Also look at how he compares to in Baseball Reference
1. Albert Belle (895)
2. Jason Giambi (894)
3. Juan Gonzalez (881)
4. Jim Thome (871)
5. Jim Edmonds (866)
6. Johnny Mize (861) *
7. Gil Hodges (839)
8. Dick Allen (838)
9. Norm Cash (836)
10. Tino Martinez (836)
All good players, none except for Johnny Mize will make the HOF. I think guys like Delgado and Thome will just miss.

[BobOjedaFan]

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Needle,
A-Rod had a better year in 2003 because he played SS.
If he won it would have a much better shot at geting in the HOF.

Also look at how he compares to in Baseball Reference
1. Albert Belle (895)
2. Jason Giambi (894)
3. Juan Gonzalez (881)
4. Jim Thome (871)
5. Jim Edmonds (866)
6. Johnny Mize (861) *
7. Gil Hodges (839)
8. Dick Allen (838)
9. Norm Cash (836)
10. Tino Martinez (836)
All good players, none except for Johnny Mize will make the HOF. I think guys like Delgado and Thome will just miss.

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Wait, Albert Belle was a good player? I thought he just argued with the media, haha.

[Bulldog]

Not yet. But if he is a key part of a WS champion, especially in New York, and he gets to 500 or maybe 550 HRs, he's got a shot.

Delgado = Alonzo Mourning? Very good players, got (may get) titles late in their careers, never the best in the league, but very good for a long time.

[ThaSaltCracka]

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Delgado = Alonzo Mourning?

[/ QUOTE ]Uh no.

[Bulldog]

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Delgado = Alonzo Mourning?

[/ QUOTE ]Uh no.

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Mourning (32nd in career Player Efficiency Rating)
Hall of Fame Probability: .532 (90)

Delgado (23rd in career OPS)
HOF Monitor: Batting - 100.5 (141) (Likely HOFer > 100)

Both about 50/50 right now. A late-career title for both would add weight to their cases.