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Old 08-04-2007, 08:52 PM
Vedocorban Vedocorban is offline
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Default Is this too aggressive for NL50?

I've been raising a lot of pots at this table, and villain has frequently 3bet me.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $62.05
BB: $50.00
UTG: $48.00
MP: $37.55
CO: $125.85
Hero (BTN): $49.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $6.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>

I really felt like my bottom pair was good. Am I pot committed if villain shoves?
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:57 PM
Shibby Shibby is offline
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Default Re: Is this too aggressive for NL50?

If he shoves on you, you're absolutely pot committed. If you're gonna make plays like this pf and on the flop, you need to have a plan in mind before pulling them off.
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:12 PM
blackize blackize is offline
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Default Re: Is this too aggressive for NL50?

Fold preflop to the 3bet. Seriously, K2s is garbage. You're going to hit a big hand with it so infrequently and you'll end up spewing money trying to bluff or to see if your pair is good or whatever.
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:15 PM
PinkMartini PinkMartini is offline
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Default Re: Is this too aggressive for NL50?

I would not recommend this. Acxc, 88, 22, 44, overpair are likely instashoving this. You're praying he has two unsuited overcards and folds this.
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:20 PM
allinonadraw allinonadraw is offline
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Default Re: Is this too aggressive for NL50?

As played, yes, you're pot committed. However, I don't like the flop raise...as another poster commented, your best move is to fold pf.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:45 AM
Waingro Waingro is offline
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Default Re: Is this too aggressive for NL50?

I donīt get it. What range of hands did you put villain on pf and on the flop that you felt K2s was a good hand to put in a lot of money with? Fold pf and it is about as clear cut as it gets.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:51 AM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default Re: Is this too aggressive for NL50?

your burning money by playin this way. Dont raise pf, fold to the pf 3bet, fold on the flop.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:23 AM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Is this too aggressive for NL50?

Fold to the reraise preflop. If he's been 3-betting a lot preflop just open-fold too. When people are 3-betting frequently, marginal hands go down in value and strong hands go up.

I don't hate the flop actually, though folding is standard. You will be getting approximately the right odds if he shoves now.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:55 PM
Wooden Ta Sheng Wooden Ta Sheng is offline
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Default Re: Is this too aggressive for NL50?

You know you are pot committed if villain 3-bet pushes. A better line would be to float and evaluate the turn (not that it would be any better). I'd just fold the flop.
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