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Old 11-30-2007, 06:15 PM
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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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no its not.

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I'm talking about here as in on the flop...
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: probably retarded question HU

would fold vs described villan
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:24 PM
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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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no its not.

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I'm talking about here as in on the flop...

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ur still wrong
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:26 PM
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btw, i still suspect its a fold and i did fold, still not sure ofc... i kinda strongly suspect he will pull this BS with stuff like naked 7x, misguided semibluff with A4, A5 or A3... does that change things?
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: probably retarded question HU

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btw, i still suspect its a fold and i did fold, still not sure ofc... i kinda strongly suspect he will pull this BS with stuff like naked 7x, misguided semibluff with A4, A5 or A3... does that change things?

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hmm, if he's doing that gross [censored] on your 3-bets for stacks, then i personally like a fold here even more.

i think i'd then like to tighten up my 3-betting, as an adjustment to make me more willing to get it allin on flops. especially with no PT, he's very unlikely to realize you're adjusting and will keep spewing, and if you can weight your range such that it crushes his, you can be more patient.

Because the thing is if he's playing back at you, you can add 77,88,99,etc to his range, and it just seems to marginal in my opinion.

I think it's close though, my calling range would be around 77, JJ+ and then 45+. Then I'm calling any big suited Axs and like 67. kinda arbitrary and just off the top of my head, but i still think calling would be a mistake.


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Old 11-30-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: probably retarded question HU

meh, I actually don't mind a call here. Considering this board is draw heavy as [censored], I prolly call here. If I'm thoroughly beating him though, I find this to be an easy fold.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: probably retarded question HU

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btw, i still suspect its a fold and i did fold, still not sure ofc... i kinda strongly suspect he will pull this BS with stuff like naked 7x, misguided semibluff with A4, A5 or A3... does that change things?

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not really. i can't see a situation where calling this is good. like ever. against a random hand it's barely a call.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: probably retarded question HU

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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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no its not.

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I'm talking about here as in on the flop...

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ur still wrong

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If someone folds a ton of flops, when he doesn't he probably has a hand right? (I understand you think most of these hands are draws). The bigger reason to fold here is because you're so sure you can outplay him in the longterm and pick up so many pots when he folds too many flops instead of risking so much on a big call which could be close to a flip or dead. Could you please explain your reasoning why it's still wrong?
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:33 PM
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probably retarded? definitely retarded.

im too high to give a decent answer now ill come back to it.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:43 PM
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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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no its not.

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I'm talking about here as in on the flop...

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ur still wrong

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If someone folds a ton of flops, when he doesn't he probably has a hand right? (I understand you think most of these hands are draws). The bigger reason to fold here is because you're so sure you can outplay him in the longterm and pick up so many pots when he folds too many flops instead of risking so much on a big call which could be close to a flip or dead. Could you please explain your reasoning why it's still wrong?

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because we're not playing a tournament and both players can reload????

it's a fold, but not for your reasoning
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