Is this fold ridiculously nitty?

[Casper0]

Villain and I were the bigger stacks at the table and were both being a bit bullyish but staying out of each others way.

(sorry bout the HH ...couldn't get the omaha hand to convert)


***** Hand History for Game 6083159879 *****
$25 USD PL Omaha - Thursday, June 21, 15:49:25 ET 2007
Table Table 126901 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: kavan888 ( $43.75 USD )
Seat 5: BigPoppa0815 ( $13.45 USD )
Seat 8: Casper0137 ( $70.99 USD )
Seat 9: FilthyRob222 ( $25 USD )
Seat 10: akhmed79 ( $44.35 USD )
Seat 1: fruger ( $14.15 USD )
Seat 6: Jettfast ( $14.85 USD )
Seat 7: sascha7777 ( $21.30 USD )
Seat 2: joe63waka ( $36.70 USD )
Seat 3: Exvel ( $11.45 USD )
Exvel posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
kavan888 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Casper0137 [ Ad 2c Jc Ah ]
BigPoppa0815 folds
Jettfast calls [$0.25 USD]
sascha7777 calls [$0.25 USD]
Casper0137 raises [$1.25 USD]
FilthyRob222 calls [$1.25 USD]
akhmed79 calls [$1.25 USD]
fruger folds
>You have options at Table 129305 Table!.
joe63waka folds
Exvel folds
kavan888 calls [$1 USD]
Jettfast folds
sascha7777 calls [$1 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, As, 7h ]
kavan888 checks
>You have options at Table 129305 Table!.
sascha7777 checks
Casper0137 checks
FilthyRob222 checks
akhmed79 checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
>You have options at Table 129305 Table!.
kavan888 bets [$6.30 USD]
sascha7777 folds
Casper0137 folds
FilthyRob222 calls [$6.30 USD]
akhmed79 folds
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
>You have options at Table 129305 Table!.
kavan888 bets [$9.75 USD]
FilthyRob222 folds
kavan888 does not show cards.
kavan888 wins $28 USD

yes I laid down a set on the turn.

[donkeykong2]

the laydown is ok, but you had to bet the flop, that was a pretty big mistake.

[Bartholow]

What were you aiming for with your check on the flop?

[Neuman101]

u should have never put urself in this position of having no idea where u stand...especially at such a low level, u need to take advantage of people's propensity to call when they should not...I will only check this in heads up and short handed games for deceptive metagame purposes and those are still few are far between

Not to mention the player leading out on the turn could have flopped a lower set or A8 and was looking for a check raise and there will be times you are folding here when he has one or no outs...

[Casper0]

Obviously ..my flop play was horrendous.

If I bet pot on flop and he potted it again then and there would it be a lay down?

how bout if I potted the flop and he flat called and came out firing on turn?

I just found the whole hand confusing and definetly didn't make my life easier by checking the flop.

[SavageMiser]

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If I bet pot on flop and he potted it again then and there would it be a lay down?

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No! Why play aces at all if you do this? Worst case he's got a 12-card wrap and you're a very slight dog. Everything else you are crushing.

[The_Taj]

yea AJ2A with no nut flush cards isn't a very great hand. If you're even going to play this hand for a raise then pot flop if you hit top set 100%, on turn if the guy who bet out is pretty deep i would atleast call to try and fill up, also if he doesnt have the nut straight on the river he will most likely check and you get a free showdown.

[iggymcfly]

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Obviously ..my flop play was horrendous.

If I bet pot on flop and he potted it again then and there would it be a lay down?

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This is possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. You're playing microstakes, the other "big stack" in the hand has less than 2 BI and you're wondering if you should lay down top set with no straight or flush possible? If he repots, you go all-in, sometimes as a coin-flip and often as a massive massive favorite against a worse set or two pair. Maybe if you're both 5 or 10 BI deep, you could think about waiting for a safe turn, but most of the time, you should just be hammering this flop. I refuse to comment on the turn as played, because I'd never even consider playing the flop that badly.

[Casper0]

Sorry ...yes you are absolutely correct Iggy that 1. I should have been betting out flop ..2. if he raise me on flop I should have been trying to get it all in on flop.

I was just asking if my play was bad as of turn play ...which I should not have got here the way I did ..but alas I did.

I am still learning Omaha so starting hand selection and hand win/loss percentages at different streets are very vague for me as I basically go off the knowledge I know through playing holdem.

So as Iggy said ...The turn is a screwed spot for me BECAUSE I let it become that way.

all that being said ...the turn laydown as played was not a terrible one then?

[SavageMiser]

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I basically go off the knowledge I know through playing holdem.

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You need to stop that.