Why Im no longer an ACist

[valenzuela]

I will try to write the best I can but its still going to be rusty, I will give an example at the end of each point to make the point clearer. The reason Im not longer an ACist its because imo Acists make the following mistakes:

1) They ignore/dont care about Nature determinism
2) They ignore the problem of incomplete information and thereby fail to understand when human beings cooperate.
3) Failure to find a shade of grey to their absolute property-rights


1) Acists love to talk about how goverments coerce us into doing stuff we dont like, however they dont like it that much when somebody points out that there really isnt much freedom is youre born in a poor family get an horrible informal and formal education and you are never able to develop any significant skill you are preety much screwed , its basically work on something you hate or die, yes I know youre not dying because a moral agent is stabbing you but ure still dying, the problems are not going to go away because theyre not made by a moral agent. Society as a whole has to make the desition wheter its worth to increase “the coercion done by moral agents” in order to decrease the negative impact of “ the coercion not done by moral agents”, I cant really show my calculations but I can intuitively recognize that perhaps the ideal amount of coercion isnt 0, its called common sense.
Example: Suppose a poor girl gets pregnant at 17, her baby is esentially screwed however we can decrease the negative impact of the non moral-agent coercion done to the baby at the expense of increasing the moral agent coercion of those who are better off*.

2) This is quite simple, Acists assume companies will keep their contracts because of reputation,etc,etc. However this isnt medieval Iceland where 2000 people live, we live in an extremely complex society with millions of other people and thereby incomplete information, do you really think that in no goverment land if the owner of a factory fails to pay their workers suddenly all possible workers are going to find out that that specific factory didnt pay their workers? Get real. As in the prisioners dilema, the correct strategy is to cooperate if you are going to be playing the game a lot of times( ie: medieval Iceland) however in this really complex society with millions of people in it the incentives to cooperate are kinda slim if there isnt a third party making sure nobody screws each other big time.( And even if the conditions are made so that people cooperate it doesnt mean they will, people dont evaluate situations on a perfect way.**)

3) This is rather complex, but basically the thing is that there are two extremes regarding property, those are property = theft and property= holy. I think that property rights should be respected but there should be some kinda compensation for those that get harmed by their lack of property because whether u like it or not ure protecting ure land with guns, violence and coercion. The mistakes Acists here is that whoever disagrees with absolute property rights cant even eat an apple because if you eat an apple then somebody else wont be able to eat that apple, how about u have 10 apples and u have to give 1 apple back to the community?

Btw I know a lot of the stuff that I said has refutations, but I would never finish this post if I had to come up with every sensible counter-counter-counter refutations, Im just posting this so that we can get a discussion going, I obviously expect Acists to prey points number1& 3 which are the weakest( I think point 2 will get ignored because imo its the best part of my OP).
Im still open minded to change my point of views so give it ure best shot

* Moorobot said this on a thread about milk for pregnant mothers like a year ago, credit to him for saying that however I dont believe in basically giving both types of coercion the same importance
** Credit to Phil153 for saying this, however I think the reason that no goverments wouldnt result in voluntary cooperation would mainly be because the incentives wont be there not because people suck at evaluating.