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Old 07-22-2007, 12:25 PM
jenson jenson is offline
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Default NL200: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

Had not played with villain before tonight.

This is kind of strange behavior for an UTG limper on this flop. If his intention was to limp/RR pre-flop then he probably has AA, KK, or AK. If he didn't intend to RR and just wanted a cheap flop then his range his pretty large including OESD and nut flush draws.

Only losing to KKK, and TTT can't see myself ever folding here.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($147.35)
UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ ($161.15)
UTG+1 ($120.55)
Hero ($240.20)
MP2 ($326.70)
MP3 ($50.80)
CO ($165.05)
Button ($194)
SB ($18.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG (Villain)/ calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises to $162.15 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

if his range is AA/KK its instacall(it gets even better with AK in there)

if its AA, KK, TT QJ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] its close call

its likely wider than that so get it in
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:32 PM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

BINGO!!!
Instacall.
Lose stack to turn spade.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:22 PM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

Fist pump insta-call.

Also, raise flop bigger the first time.
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:33 PM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

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BINGO!!!
Instacall.
Lose stack to turn spade.

[/ QUOTE ]
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:37 PM
robinmasters robinmasters is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

whats the point of playing 44 if we consider folding this flop?
AK/KQ and 2 pairs show up here soooooo often this is INSTACALL
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:39 PM
Kos13 Kos13 is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

Not only is this an insta-call, but the villain limped UTG, which makes it even less likely that he has KK/TT.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:28 PM
LifeTilt LifeTilt is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

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Not only is this an insta-call, but the villain limped UTG, which makes it even less likely that he has KK.

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FYP. TT is easily in the range of many to limp UTG. Is it likely he's holding TT, well no, but of course it's a possibility.

Notwithstanding, I would be far more comfortable (and probably correct) with a blanket statement that excludes KK from his range, than a blanket statement excluding KK <u>and</u> TT because of an UTG limp.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:07 PM
diebitter diebitter is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

that's a draw, so sonic-boom call. Expect to see AQ or QJ, I'd say.


Also, please put level in your subject line when posting hand histories.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: Bottom set faces monstrous ReRaise

umm call.
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