$33- flopped nutFD+str8 draw+overcards

mondonman · #1 09-04-2007, 12:11 PM

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1960
UTG+1: t1940
MP1: t3560
MP2: t1940
MP3: t3570
Hero: t2060
Button: t1850
SB: t1660
BB: t1460

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t60 (pot was t90), UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t60 (pot was t150), MP2 folds, MP3 calls t60 (pot was t210), Hero calls t60 (pot was t270), 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t330, 5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets t60, MP3 calls t60 (pot was t390), Hero calls t60 (pot was t450), 2 folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t510, 3 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero?

Limped pf because there are already 3 limpers. A raise bloats the pot and will not get anybody out. No room for a reasonable c-bet.

Raise the flop? I won´t get rid of Q or J. OTOH I might get calls from worse FD or T9.

Bet turn after the two guys showed weakness?

RexWoo · #2 09-04-2007, 12:23 PM

I think the pot is big enough for a push preflop.

As played, I check behind on the turn.

Little John · #3 09-04-2007, 02:19 PM

i think not raising AKs preflop is a mistake, so i make a standard raise to 360 here. you are plenty deep to play postflop if you need to. plus, do you really want to play AK in an unraised pot vs 5 oppoents?

as played, your hand is huge. i raise the flop...

Shillx · #4 09-04-2007, 04:06 PM

PF is good but damn raise that flop

vaNq · #5 09-04-2007, 04:21 PM

Raise flop.

dfan · #6 09-04-2007, 05:09 PM

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Limped pf because there are already 3 limpers. A raise bloats the pot and will not get anybody out. No room for a reasonable c-bet.

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What do you mean a raise will not get anybody out? The limpers are very likely to be small or medium pp's, sc's or suited high cards, all of which are very likely to fold to this raise. And if they call OOP that is +EV for you as well.

To me, the best preflop choices are standard raise or push. Not sure which though.

flopman · #7 09-04-2007, 05:30 PM

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To me, the best preflop choices are standard raise or push. Not sure which though.

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I would make an over raise to get people out.

ger664 · #8 09-04-2007, 06:20 PM

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To me, the best preflop choices are standard raise or push. Not sure which though.

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I would make an over raise to get people out.

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And commit you to calling a shove from UTG limper. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

As played check behind the turn.

I would raise this Pre Flop to t360.

I'm still undecided between raising/calling the flop.

#9 09-04-2007, 08:16 PM

Whilst I think pushing is +EV surely it can't be to a maximum profit?