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Old 10-23-2007, 06:59 AM
MataWispar MataWispar is offline
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Default Re: $200NL - Hows My Line?

cbetting Axx flops with any two cards that you happened to raise with is +EV.....
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: $200NL - Hows My Line?

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cbetting Axx flops with any two cards that you happened to raise with is +EV.....

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ok but that doesnt make it the best line w/ any hand or even make it a good line at all w/ some hands
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:12 AM
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because a player this tight will fold some hands that beat you. If you check here,you have given him hope that will carry him to the river that his Ax is good.

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lol are you kidding me?
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:12 AM
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cbetting Axx flops with any two cards that you happened to raise with is +EV.....

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so what?

Is it the best play?
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:16 AM
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ok but that doesnt make it the best line w/ any hand or even make it a good line at all w/ some hands

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ok but it makes it at worst a good line. +ev is +ev. cbetting with KK on any flop is better that playing it passively and getting bluffed by JJ because you showed weakness.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:20 AM
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ok but that doesnt make it the best line w/ any hand or even make it a good line at all w/ some hands

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ok but it makes it at worst a good line. +ev is +ev. cbetting with KK on any flop is better that playing it passively and getting bluffed by JJ because you showed weakness.

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no it doesnt make it at worst a good line. open-shoving AA first to act is +EV but it sucks. And just b/c you check doesnt mean you have to c/f and get bluffed by JJ.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:29 AM
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ok.

check flop

check call smallish bet on turn

you don't hit your two outer on river, what now?

fold to any bet?
hope you get a free showdown?
bluff having absolutely no idea where you are in the hand?
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:18 AM
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Disclaimer: I play NL25 :-\
I think it's kinda read-dependant, if he's passive/nitty enough I can see him check behind AQ/AK here (its a rr pot). I honestly think it's a close call.

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I have a question for OP: what's your plan if opponent bets the flop?
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:49 AM
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Disclaimer: I play NL25 :-\
I think it's kinda read-dependant, if he's passive/nitty enough I can see him check behind AQ/AK here (its a rr pot). I honestly think it's a close call.

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I have a question for OP: what's your plan if opponent bets the flop?

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call
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:51 AM
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cbetting Axx flops with any two cards that you happened to raise with is +EV.....

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so what?

Is it the best play?

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do you also occasionally check AA/AK here? if not, your hand becomes very readable and a perceptive player would attack when you check after 3betting pf.
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