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Old 11-07-2007, 05:20 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Marginal spot vs. a wtf line

Villain is 22/20 over about 50 hands

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (SB): $49.50
BB: $86.45
UTG: $34.80
CO: $58.75
BTN: $58.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2.50</font>, Hero calls $2.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($6) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $4.50</font>, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($15) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $51.10 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $37.50 and is All-In
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: Marginal spot vs. a wtf line

Fold. 22 just got there.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: Marginal spot vs. a wtf line

i dont understand why you check the flop?

turn was ok.
and river call is spew i think, you are beat.

i think the check on the flop messed everything up.
i might be wrong, but what was your reasoning behind it?
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Marginal spot vs. a wtf line

His line doesn't make much sense for anything other than a boat or a bluff and your river bet looks weak enough that I think you're inducing some bluffs, so I guess this is all okay. (I don't think enough players at these levels are going to read you for something marginal and decide to value bet KK in this spot.)
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:26 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: Marginal spot vs. a wtf line

[ QUOTE ]
i dont understand why you check the flop?

turn was ok.
and river call is spew i think, you are beat.

i think the check on the flop messed everything up.
i might be wrong, but what was your reasoning behind it?

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because he is a reg and most regs c-bet like 98% of their range in this spot. I'm never leading with a bluff here so it doesn't make sense to lead with TP here
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Marginal spot vs. a wtf line

river bet should be higher, as played I probably call because I can't put him on a hand that beats you
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Marginal spot vs. a wtf line

if he's a reg and you bet 1/3 pot on this river, you gotta call the shove.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:39 PM
itsdanwall itsdanwall is offline
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Default Re: Marginal spot vs. a wtf line

I fold this preflop against a player with those stats. This hand plays ass out of position with a player who is going to cbet the flop a majority of the time. I like 3 betting to 8.5 sooooo much more than cold calling with this hand (Fold&gt;3bet&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;call). Also you need to have the attempt to steal blinds and continuation bet stats set up on your hud.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:45 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: Marginal spot vs. a wtf line

Folding this pf is horrible when it is pretty obvious he is trying to isolate a limper. What exactly do you think 3-betting here gains?
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:47 PM
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folding pf is not horrible
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