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#11
10-09-2007, 11:21 PM
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Re: Why don\'t cardrooms spread NL smaller than $1/2?
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50 cent pieces and quarters on the table suck. I hate places that use them. [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. I personally would never patronize a place that used .50 and quarters on the table. 
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#12
10-09-2007, 11:58 PM
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Because They Are Doing the Players a Favor
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Why don't they spread $0.50/1 NL or smaller? It is just because of less rake? Maybe the $0.50/1 NL would not run as slow as 1/2 NL... [/ QUOTE ] The rakes/BBJ for a 1/2 NLHE are significant but good players can still make money. If they spread a .5/1 NLHE game then the RAKE would remain the same and be a KILLER!. The rakes would approach 20% per pot. Think about it, dealers still have to be paid. The floormen, chip runners, and managers still need to get paid. The floor space must generate the same revenue for the casino or be in danger of being taken over by slot machines. Plus I think .5/1 players would not like paying a 20% rake each hand.....
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#13
10-09-2007, 11:59 PM
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Re: Why don\'t cardrooms spread NL smaller than $1/2?
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[ QUOTE ] 50 cent pieces and quarters on the table suck. I hate places that use them. [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. I personally would never patronize a place that used .50 and quarters on the table. [/ QUOTE ] Just a few years ago that would ahve been basically every place in Vegas. I once saw somone bring a roll of quarters to a 40-80 game because they only had 50 cent pieces on the table and he liked to tip 25 cents a pot.
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#14
10-10-2007, 12:03 AM
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Re: Why don\'t cardrooms spread NL smaller than $1/2?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Dynasty said here that 1/2NL plays a little smaller than 10/20 limit. [/ QUOTE ] this doesn't sound right to me as a quick check, average pot size right now at Pokerstars for 1/2 NL ranges from $5 to $70 with a median somewhere around $25 to $30. Average pot sizes for 10/20 limit range from $61 to $115. At 5/10 limit they range from $33 to $70. Granted, live play is different than online. But even still... [/ QUOTE ] Don't even try to compare the 2, trust me. Dynasty is 100% correct on the fact of how the 1/2 games play. They play like short stacked 10/20 Limit games. [/ QUOTE ] My comment was mostly about how much you could win. So, in a 1-2 no-limit game, your winrate should be a little less than in a 10-20 limit game.
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#15
10-10-2007, 12:26 AM
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Re: Why don\'t cardrooms spread NL smaller than $1/2?
If a casino opened a few .50/1.00 tables, I have no doubt they'd be popular. There are always fleas looking for the smallest games they can find so that's not the issue.
The problem is they would only drain away some of the 1/2 action, which would hurt the total rake dropped. Even then you'd hear those same players bitching and crying about how much rake they're paying (as if they're going to get $2 max rake or something).
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#16
10-10-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: Why don\'t cardrooms spread NL smaller than $1/2?
1/2 games in mississippi generally play slightly bigger than 10-20 L..... No max buy-in, so uys put 1-2K on the table
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#17
10-10-2007, 01:06 AM
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Re: Because They Are Doing the Players a Favor
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The rakes/BBJ for a 1/2 NLHE are significant but good players can still make money. If they spread a .5/1 NLHE game then the RAKE would remain the same and be a KILLER!. The rakes would approach 20% per pot. Think about it, dealers still have to be paid. The floormen, chip runners, and managers still need to get paid. The floor space must generate the same revenue for the casino or be in danger of being taken over by slot machines. Plus I think .5/1 players would not like paying a 20% rake each hand..... [/ QUOTE ] In Cali maybe. In areas where 10% to X max it's not possible to rake 20%.
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10-10-2007, 05:08 AM
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Re: Why don\'t cardrooms spread NL smaller than $1/2?
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I once saw somone bring a roll of quarters to a 40-80 game because they only had 50 cent pieces on the table and he liked to tip 25 cents a pot. [/ QUOTE ] For years, St Louis players traveling down to Tunica would bring a roll of quarters to whatever game they were playing, as they thought tipping $1/hand was extravagant. I guess all the boats in STL had coins on the table. This practice has since stopped. Having just read "Freak-onomics", I feel it is my duty to hypothesize on why this is so. I figure that either: A. STL no longer uses quarters. B. The introduction of coinless slots and the death of $1-5 7-stud makes it a lot harder nowadays to get your hands on a roll of quarters in a casino.
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