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Old 10-31-2007, 05:25 PM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default TT UTG squeezed

Hero has been playing TAGgy, the BTN is Wumplepwn, one of u guys, so his hand is clearly a weakish hand looking to outplay with position postlfop and stuff.

SB in this hand is Lemur, also one of you very likley. I LOOOOOOVE his squeeze here with any 2 because our stack sizes make a ton of my hands really awkward to play, such as the hand I do have.

Anyway, how do u guys proceed from here?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $61.55
BTN: $119
SB: $194.70
BB: $138.85
UTG: $93.10
Hero (MP): $212.15

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $4.50, <font color="red">BB raises to $21</font>, UTG folds,
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:28 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default Re: TT UTG squeezed

I die a little inside and fold

edit: when playing well, which lately hasnt been the case
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: TT UTG squeezed

standard call
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: TT UTG squeezed

Yeah it's a small raise and we're over 100bbs, it's an okay call. I'd be careful postflop though.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: TT UTG squeezed

Any read on the BB?

Without one, I'd say you are getting pot odds + implied odds to call, especially if SB calls.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: TT UTG squeezed

i call all day. you ahve good odds to draw to a set and you can use your position to play the hand cheaply.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:54 PM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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and when he bets 30 on every god damn flop you?
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:58 PM
Chicago Twister Chicago Twister is offline
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Default Re: TT UTG squeezed

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and when he bets 30 on every god damn flop you?

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That's the beauty of implied odds. You can fold unless you get there then play some poker, and that's enough to be +EV. If you had implied odds pre. If you don't have implied odds, you're totally screwed.

If you know your opponent well enough to know when he is weak on what flops, then you can check-raise him and win a nice pot every now &amp; then. If you know him well enough to know when youre TT is best then you can win the occasional huge pot by taking a fairly passive line. But all of this is gravy on top of the set value of your hand because you had implied odds pre.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: TT UTG squeezed

your implied odds are not nearly as good as they seem given that you have poor position WRT squeezer if you are assuming that he's going to bet the majority of flops (which may or not be true)
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:37 PM
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and when he bets 30 on every god damn flop you?

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That's the beauty of implied odds. You can fold unless you get there then play some poker, and that's enough to be +EV. If you had implied odds pre. If you don't have implied odds, you're totally screwed.

If you know your opponent well enough to know when he is weak on what flops, then you can check-raise him and win a nice pot every now &amp; then. If you know him well enough to know when youre TT is best then you can win the occasional huge pot by taking a fairly passive line. But all of this is gravy on top of the set value of your hand because you had implied odds pre.

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Yeah...um...you don't really understand implied odds. You've read too much Phil Gordon, I suspect.
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