**Official uNL Microbrew thread: September**

[Student Caine]

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Since you guys are talking about the issue of moving up, I'm really curious now: anyone else actually moved up because he could not beat the stakes he played at?

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Pokey comes to mind [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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My statement prolly doesn't apply to Pokey. ("prolly" meaning "definitely"). [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[SirFelixCat]

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SirFelixCat, would you happen to be Johnny_Felix on Pokerstars? If so I would like to have a private conversation with you.

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Nope, sorry. Same name on FT.

[Mr_Pathetic]

I have also stopped looking at winrates and pokerev stuff and my cashier and I am now focusing on making sure I don't screw up by doing hardcore session reviews after each session and making sure I am learning from my mistakes. When I started doing session reviews back in May I was averaging about 30% losses due to mistakes on losing hands and losing about 20% of value on my winning hands due to mistakes. Thats now down to only losing 20% or less to mistakes on losing hands and maybe missing at the most 10% of value of value. Huge improvement and my game shows it too.

Plus I am thinking so much deeper when I play and analyze my hands it scares me sometimes. I constantly feel like I am over thinking and it sometimes becomes a mindtrip. Just wish I knew the right balance for the opponents I am playing but at NL10 there are the ones who only play their cards then you got the ones who put you on a hand then you got the ones who try and think what you think. Takes a little bit to figure out the last two. I just default to the I got this, I think they got this, and my hand looks like this to them.

[Frosteater]

Thanks, Gelford, you saved my day. I started to feel a bit uncomfortable.

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I have done this before and had the conversation with others as well. I believe that it is typically one's inability to adapt, use good table selection, and play with patience that causes this.

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Check, check and check.
Although I assume these habits would make their way to the next stake as well.

[NL Newbie]

1 [censored] HAND!! AND YOUR WHOL DAY IS [censored]!!! gtrrr

[Gelford]

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Since you guys are talking about the issue of moving up, I'm really curious now: anyone else actually moved up because he could not beat the stakes he played at?

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Pokey comes to mind [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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My statement prolly doesn't apply to Pokey. ("prolly" meaning "definitely"). [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Sure it does, he couldn't beat 50NL for the life of him .. so he finally just grinded 25NL until he was rolled for 100NL and skipped it. (there was a time, where both me and pokey where struggling noobs)

[NL Newbie]

pokey still plays?

[rebuyboy]

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just made 22 buyins in 4500 hands of nl50. also i dont know if this is the thread where u say which people suck but valuekill is really bad and sucks

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When will I be getting my $1000 that you promised me months ago when I staked you $600? lol... I hope you at least sent me $50 last night after I told you twice.

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Wait, what? Drama?

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must u ask me thisin a public place? just sent 50 and i only owed u 600

[Gelford]

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I have also stopped looking at winrates and pokerev stuff and my cashier and I am now focusing on making sure I don't screw up by doing hardcore session reviews after each session and making sure I am learning from my mistakes. When I started doing session reviews back in May I was averaging about 30% losses due to mistakes on losing hands and losing about 20% of value on my winning hands due to mistakes. Thats now down to only losing 20% or less to mistakes on losing hands and maybe missing at the most 10% of value of value. Huge improvement and my game shows it too.

Plus I am thinking so much deeper when I play and analyze my hands it scares me sometimes. I constantly feel like I am over thinking and it sometimes becomes a mindtrip. Just wish I knew the right balance for the opponents I am playing but at NL10 there are the ones who only play their cards then you got the ones who put you on a hand then you got the ones who try and think what you think. Takes a little bit to figure out the last two. I just default to the I got this, I think they got this, and my hand looks like this to them.

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I can't remember who (maybe fraac), but in the book forum someone flamed the sklansky multible level chapther claiming that you are not playing different levels, either you are playing (on) or not (off).


And in many ways this is not far off and imo might be a better illustration of how to approach NLH. I mean, I'm never going, he thinks, so I think, so he thinks, so ... etc.

It is more ... his range seems to be '....', so therefore I am probably ahead .. or so therefore I can probably get away with firing three barrels, as that range can withstand much heat.

After a while if I pulled some wierd [censored], then I reestimate his range (or rather ranges, betting range, calling range and raising range)


But in this there really aren't many regression like the multilevel thinking described here on 2+2 in the old days (around 1-2 years ago ... hehe ... the old days) or sklanskys book. It is more a question of estimating ranges and probabilities (and balance suddenly comes into the picture)


I might be on a wrong track here, but well .... (and there is some guessing and dancing, but it is all about estimating what range villian perceives you on and what ranges you estimate he is on)


As usual I rant, but oh well ...

[Gelford]

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pokey still plays?

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Dunno, he returned a few months ago and claimed to be getting back into business ... but whether he's disappeared again or now posting in SSNL I can't tell, since I so rarely visit SSNL.