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Old 09-24-2007, 07:08 PM
BJJIII BJJIII is offline
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Default NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

Ok so my buddy and I had different opinions on the way this hand was played. Does the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the flop discount the chance of him having AA enough to continue with the hand?


Do you continue with the hand or give it up?

What do you all think?

villain is 17/14/4 after 50 hands.
Hero is 17/7/3

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP1 ($13.00)
MP2 ($103.75)
CO ($100.50)
<font color="#C00000">BJJIII ($98.50)</font>
SB ($59.80)
BB ($90.50)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($100.00)</font>
UTG+1 ($166.50)

Preflop: BJJIII is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BJJIII raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, BJJIII calls $11.

Flop: ($33.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $19</font>, BJJIII ?
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:05 PM
Fiasco Fiasco is offline
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Default Re: NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

I think Im putting in the third raise preflop against a player with those stats.

As played I think you have to fold the flop. If hes aggressive enough to fire at the flop he may fire again, you gonna call another barrel? Lets say he does check the turn, are you gonna bet it? For value?
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:51 PM
Johnes Benjamin Johnes Benjamin is offline
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Default Re: NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

I would fold. He doesn't need to have AA to have you beat, people will sometimes do this with AKs as well as AA and KK, and if you are limp reraising a lot I think pulling this with AK is a very good idea.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

He could be reraising light but the statistical sample size is tiny, so when the ace flops you have to fold. The only hands you beat that he might have are QQ or JJ, and I seriously doubt he has either. At 100NL, the limp-reraise means what you think it does.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

I love how you played this if you folded.
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

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He could be reraising light but the statistical sample size is tiny, so when the ace flops you have to fold. The only hands you beat that he might have are QQ or JJ, and I seriously doubt he has either.

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My thoughts exactly.
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

If it smells like a pile of dog doo, but looks like chocolate, chances are, it's going to be dog doo when you stick it in your mouth.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

reraise PF
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

I agree doo doo...find another better looking pile to taste
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

Well if he'd limp/reraise with QQ, why not AK? If so Then these two possibilities cancel each other out. That leaves 3 combo's of AA that still crush you. If you add the JJ's then you are ahead 3 combo's.

You might consider floating if you think he wouldn't two barrell you and there is a possibility you could bluff on a diamond. Depends on your read of the villian, but I probably wouldn't try it myself.

I'd probably go with the safe and obvious fold here I guess. I think I probably would have 4 betted PF though.
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