Hugo Chavez Death Pool Thread

[zasterguava]

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Ron Paul is a ultra-nationalist looking to cut off all obligation to the UN, world courts etc. and attempt a radical economic upheavel and has little regards to the idea of democracy and will never have support of the majority.

Hugo Chavez is a ultra-nationalist looking to cut off all control from the US and attempt a radical economic upheavel and has a high regard for democracy and has support of the majority.

= Kill Ron Paul!

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Please cite a reference that shows Ron Paul ever tried to overthrow his country's government by force of arms.

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There is no such reference to cite. I wasn't aware overthrowing the government by force was a prequisite to disliking the idea of democracy. If you are a constitutionist taken literally you are opposed to democracy e.g. a majority rule. James Madison was opposed to democracy too. Pretty sure he didnt shoot up the town.

[zasterguava]

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Hugo Chavez is a ultra-nationalist looking to cut off all control from the US and attempt a radical economic upheavel and has a high regard for democracy

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LOL, are u being [censored] serious, Chavez=high regard for democracy???? lololol thats like saying Hitler had a high regard for human life, Im going to put content so u dont whine...Chavez tried a coup on 1992!!!


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Chavez has democratic support of his people. If he loses support and becomes a tyrant then let the people (not army funded by the US as tried) commit a coup as he did against the corrupt Perez. The Us does not have the right to intervene here as much as one may like to see him replaced by a US serving, uncorrupt Catholic family man or whatever propogated image would satisfy you disregarding the plight of the people.

[NeBlis]

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Chavez has bullied democratic support from some of his people. If he loses more support and becomes a tyrant ..


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FYP

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The Us does not have the right to intervene here as much as one may like to see him replaced by a US serving,..........

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totaly agree w/ you on this part as would any reasonable person IMO

[valenzuela]

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Hugo Chavez is a ultra-nationalist looking to cut off all control from the US and attempt a radical economic upheavel and has a high regard for democracy

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LOL, are u being [censored] serious, Chavez=high regard for democracy???? lololol thats like saying Hitler had a high regard for human life, Im going to put content so u dont whine...Chavez tried a coup on 1992!!!


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Chavez has democratic support of his people. If he loses support and becomes a tyrant then let the people (not army funded by the US as tried) commit a coup as he did against the corrupt Perez. The Us does not have the right to intervene here as much as one may like to see him replaced by a US serving, uncorrupt Catholic family man or whatever propogated image would satisfy you disregarding the plight of the people.

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Why are you mixing US foreging policy in all this issue?
The fact is that Hugo Chavez is not a democratic president, are you even aware of how much he represses the media, that guy closed an entire TV station.

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I am fully aware of that and I'm highly critical of it. He is a 'democratic' president is so far as he has a majority of support and was one of the reasons he was sworn back in after the military coup funded by the US... I refuse to accept the idea that he is a worst case scenario bearing in mind a basic knowledge of the history behind US inteverntion in Latin Ameirca and US puppet dictators who dont seem to be such 'love to hate' characters as Chavez here.

I mean look at John McCain on the Letterman show saying we live in a 'scary world where there are maniacs like the new Bolivian Evo Morelas who praises the memory of Che Guevara"- a democratically elected indeginous man ; there lies the problem. Are people really stupid enough to buy into this bs? Geesh, pick your enemies closer to home.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

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I am fully aware of that and I'm highly critical of it. He is a 'democratic' president is so far as he has a majority of support and was one of the reasons he was sworn back in after the military coup funded by the US... I refuse to accept the idea that he is a worst case scenario bearing in mind a basic knowledge of the history behind US inteverntion in Latin Ameirca and US puppet dictators who dont seem to be such 'love to hate' characters as Chavez here.

I mean look at John McCain on the Letterman show saying we live in a 'scary world where there are maniacs like the new Bolivian Evo Morelas who praises the memory of Che Guevara"- a democratically elected indeginous man ; there lies the problem. Are people really stupid enough to buy into this bs? Geesh, pick your enemies closer to home.

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McCain is correct. I couldn't care less if Morales is indigenous. He's another socialist demogogue. Since socialism is the antithesis of freedom, I want the US to actively oppose him.

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So is democracy the antithesis of freedom? You can't have it both ways.

You believe the US should ACTIVELY oppose democracy in a foreign nation whilst spurting rubish about socialism being the 'anthesis of freedom'.

[NeBlis]

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So is democracy the antithesis of freedom? You can't have it both ways.

You believe the US should ACTIVELY oppose democracy in a foreign nation whilst spurting rubish about socialism being the 'anthesis of freedom'.

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Since democracy does not automaticity equal freedom then it doesn't really matter.

While a democratic system will tend to be more free it is not necessarily an indicator of freedom.

People can be duped into voting for a great deal of freedom robbing ideas. In the case of Venezuela they have bee tricked or bullied into thinking that socialism is the answer.

Socialism IS in fact the antithesis of freedom.

I already know that you are a socialist so we don't need to have a whole rehash of your beliefs. ok? I am totally fine with you being wrong, as long as you are and don't really have the time to teach you what your going to learn in the process of getting your Poli Sci degree.

[boracay]

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So is democracy the antithesis of freedom? You can't have it both ways.

You believe the US should ACTIVELY oppose democracy in a foreign nation whilst spurting rubish about socialism being the 'anthesis of freedom'.

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Since democracy does not automaticity equal freedom then it doesn't really matter.

While a democratic system will tend to be more free it is not necessarily an indicator of freedom.

People can be duped into voting for a great deal of freedom robbing ideas. In the case of Venezuela they have bee tricked or bullied into thinking that socialism is the answer.

Socialism IS in fact the antithesis of freedom.

I already know that you are a socialist so we don't need to have a whole rehash of your beliefs. ok? I am totally fine with you being wrong, as long as you are and don't really have the time to teach you what your going to learn in the process of getting your Poli Sci degree.

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I agree socialism does not mean freedom.
And i hope most would agree interventionism or fascism has even less in common with freedom than socialism.
One thing is when people are tricked or bullied (obviously this doesn't happen in socialism only) and the other thing is when armies from thousands of miles away would want to dictate what freedom should natives have and start aggression and killings. It's sad noone mention this when talking about freedom.

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Since socialism is the antithesis of freedom, I want the US to actively oppose him.

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Huh? Canada is moderately socialist and we are completely free. I'm pretty sure norway and sweden are very much socialist countries as well and I believe that Norway is usually ranked close to the top in "best places to live" lists.