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Old 03-08-2007, 10:36 PM
kitaristi0 kitaristi0 is offline
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Default Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the blind

6-max. 100BB stacks. You are the BB. Someone (not the SB) raises and you call.

How much, if any, EV are you sacrificing by always 100% of the time checking the flop?
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b

i check this flop pretty damn close to 100% of the time.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b

i dont see how you could say always 100% of the time.. like if you spike a set, or two pair, on a draw heavy board, how do you not lead out.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b

game dependant
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b

Dude, you didn't do this right at all.

I'd like to agree with BW, but I can't. Some factors which convince me to bet:

- I have a marginal made hand or a weak draw and I think my opponents are weak
- I have a strong made hand or strong draw and my image is maniac or my opponents are aggro
- I have a TPTK type hand on a coordinated board
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b

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i dont see how you could say always 100% of the time.. like if you spike a set, or two pair, on a draw heavy board, how do you not lead out.

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If villain cbets 100% of the time, leading out is terrible independent of your holding and the board.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b

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game dependant

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This answer is as useless and not the point of this type of thread as is possible. The idea is to discuss the kinds of things it depends on, yo.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b

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i dont see how you could say always 100% of the time.. like if you spike a set, or two pair, on a draw heavy board, how do you not lead out.

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If theres a maniac who will bluff his stack away, leading would be a big mistake.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b

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- I have a marginal made hand or a weak draw and I think my opponents are weak

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How do you know he's weak when all he's done is raising PF? If he's weak, why not c/r or stop 'n go? Ship the free money...
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: Apathy style theory question SSNL version - Checking flop in the b

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- I have a marginal made hand or a weak draw and I think my opponents are weak

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How do you know he's weak when all he's done is raising PF? If he's weak, why not c/r or stop 'n go? Ship the free money...

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I dont mean my opponent's hand is weak, I mean he is weak. How do I know? Because I don't rely on my HUD...
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