AQ i mess it up pf

[freekie]

villain is 22 / 14... i decide to call pf instead of my usual repopping... then this happens

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $144
SB: $144
Hero (BB): $676.40
UTG: $75
CO: $484

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($30) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $26</font>, Hero calls $26
Turn: ($82) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $65</font>, Hero calls $65

River: ($212) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $148</font>

hero folds?

[nutsflopper]

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hero folds?

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I hope not.

[staring_elf]

if you call turn you should be snap calling that river.

[oyvindgee]

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if you call turn you should be snap calling that river.

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Because villain's range is the same on both streets?

[staring_elf]

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if you call turn you should be snap calling that river.

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Because villain's range is the same on both streets?

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no, because that river changes nothing apart from the fact that draws have missed and hero should be deciding on the turn whether or not he is going to call a river bet. simply calling turn and hoping villain checks behind river is pretty weak.

[oyvindgee]

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if you call turn you should be snap calling that river.

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Because villain's range is the same on both streets?

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hero should be deciding on the turn whether or not he is going to call a river bet. simply calling turn and hoping villain checks behind river is pretty weak.

[/ QUOTE ] First part is somewhat true. That does not however mean that we can not decide to call turn and fold river.

I call river because our hand is somewhat underrepped and he can be bluffing or value betting worse. I do not call because folding turn is ridic weak and hence folding river must be equally weak. I also think it's somewhat close and that we are beat pretty often.

[rand]

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if you call turn you should be snap calling that river.

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Because villain's range is the same on both streets?

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no, because that river changes nothing apart from the fact that draws have missed and hero should be deciding on the turn whether or not he is going to call a river bet. simply calling turn and hoping villain checks behind river is pretty weak.

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while this is pretty standard logic its not necessarily true...just as some people only have one barrel others only have two...so then turn call + river fold is ok, also turn call + river fold is ok if we now realize that we made a mistake on the turn...fing the turn up is not reason to f the river up

but i do agree that the best way to play this is to fold turn or call river