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Old 07-16-2006, 09:43 AM
kitaristi0 kitaristi0 is offline
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Default 100NL Gutshot

Villain is 24/10/1.33 over 29 hands.

1. Do you call the flop?
2. Do you call the turn/river?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($100)</font>
Button ($84.67)
SB ($106.42)
BB ($148.15)
UTG ($76.70)
UTG+1 ($136.40)
UTG+2 ($94.22)
MP1 ($128.76)
MP2 ($115.10)
<font color="#C00000">MP3 ($106.70)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($39.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.

River: ($49.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $59.50
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Old 07-16-2006, 09:52 AM
br549007 br549007 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Gutshot

check fold flop
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Old 07-16-2006, 09:55 AM
vabogee vabogee is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Gutshot

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check fold flop

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how do you c/f from in position?

you're not really getting the odds to peel because this c/r usually means an ace that will bet the turn as well. with no other draws, i fold or semi-bluff raise if I think this is just a play to combat your c-bets.
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Old 07-16-2006, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: 100NL Gutshot

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check fold flop

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he has position.

i'm generally folding the flop but if i don't i'm (value)calling the turn and raising the river. river raise is because your hand is almost certainly best and we'd rather not show it down - but hey, if he calls, fine.

i don't see him having a better hand than you on the river - probably a very small pocket pair. hard to say because i figure most players with stats in that range don't usually openlimp, but if they do, probably pocket pairs. his lame bluff failed, follow up failed and round 3 was just pathetic. donks who actually play flopped sets like he did on the flop and turn at least make a real river bet.
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Old 07-16-2006, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: 100NL Gutshot

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how do you c/f from in position?

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If you can check, you should check. If you cannot check, then fold. That is a check/fold no matter pos.

And I would check/fold that flop.
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Old 07-16-2006, 10:02 AM
vabogee vabogee is offline
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check fold flop

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he has position.

i'm generally folding the flop but if i don't i'm (value)calling the turn and raising the river. river raise is because your hand is almost certainly best and we'd rather not show it down - but hey, if he calls, fine.

i don't see him having a better hand than you on the river - probably a very small pocket pair. hard to say because i figure most players with stats in that range don't usually openlimp, but if they do, probably pocket pairs. his lame bluff failed, follow up failed and round 3 was just pathetic. donks who actually play flopped sets like he did on the flop and turn at least make a real river bet.

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you can't imagine him having an ace here? really? ok... as played, i definitely call the lame turn and river bets. but only because i'm getting such great odds (you probably have the best hand enough to call getting 7:1 and almost 8:1).
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Old 07-16-2006, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: 100NL Gutshot

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check fold flop

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he has position.

i'm generally folding the flop but if i don't i'm (value)calling the turn and raising the river. river raise is because your hand is almost certainly best and we'd rather not show it down - but hey, if he calls, fine.

i don't see him having a better hand than you on the river - probably a very small pocket pair. hard to say because i figure most players with stats in that range don't usually openlimp, but if they do, probably pocket pairs. his lame bluff failed, follow up failed and round 3 was just pathetic. donks who actually play flopped sets like he did on the flop and turn at least make a real river bet.

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you can't imagine him having an ace here? really? ok... as played, i definitely call the lame turn and river bets. but only because i'm getting such great odds (you probably have the best hand enough to call getting 7:1 and almost 8:1).

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he CAN have an ace here but this line is so so much more often some dumb underpair.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: 100NL Gutshot

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how do you c/f from in position?

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If you can check, you should check. If you cannot check, then fold. That is a check/fold no matter pos.

And I would check/fold that flop.

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don't agree at all, this is an easy cbet imo
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Old 07-16-2006, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Gutshot

i play it the same most likely

i dont understand how we can check behind the flop if that were to occur. easy c-bet
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