QQ 2nd pair on the flop

HermannTL · #1 10-30-2007, 08:25 PM

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero...

Early in a session on a very fishy table, no detailed reads. UTG+1 is a 52/9.6/2.2 who has played some silly hands. MP2 is 52/0/0.4. MP3 concerns me a bit at 16/0/0.5. BB is 39/5.6.

I think I should raise to find out where I stand...and the BB and the middle players aren't acting like they have a King.

Aaron W. · #2 10-30-2007, 08:31 PM

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I think I should raise to find out where I stand

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*sigh*

tiltaholic · #3 10-30-2007, 08:33 PM

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero...

Early in a session on a very fishy table, no detailed reads. UTG+1 is a 52/9.6/2.2 who has played some silly hands. MP2 is 52/0/0.4. MP3 concerns me a bit at 16/0/0.5. BB is 39/5.6.

I think I should raise to find out where I stand...and the BB and the middle players aren't acting like they have a King.

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raising could be good, but only if UTG+1 does weird things, like bet into pf raisers with bad cards for fun.

BadBigBabar · #4 10-30-2007, 08:37 PM

i fold right away on the flop. someone has a king or better always here.

kbdunn · #5 10-30-2007, 08:39 PM

Nearly closing the action with a BDSD and a decently coordinated board, I think its close between folding and calling.

neurotiq · #6 10-30-2007, 09:12 PM

I'd fold this guy. It looked good preflop; it doesn't look good any more. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Point Blank · #7 10-30-2007, 09:22 PM

if I had the Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or board wasn't two flushed I would consider calling ...

this is an easy fold ...

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I think I should raise to find out where I stand

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this will have people yelling at you for sure ... read some other posts please

scpi10 · #8 10-31-2007, 12:53 AM

grunch

Calling is better than raiseing IMO. You're likely behind so just call and reevaluate on the turn.

KitCloudkicker · #9 10-31-2007, 12:54 AM

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I think I should raise to find out where I stand

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stop doing that.

fold the flop and save your 2 small bets.

KitCloudkicker · #10 10-31-2007, 12:58 AM

stop raising for information, says ed