400nl JJ oop

[NicholasJ]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $567.90
CO: $467
Button: $127.60
Hero: $516.30
BB: $1840.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $18</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $62</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($132, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $88</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($308, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($308, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $216</font>.


Villain is taggy. We haven't clashed, but my image is loose. Worth a call?

[mattaasen]

id bet more on the flop, and id fold the river

[ArturiusX]

I'd fold the river too with no history.

[pdoran10]

yeah seems like a really standard fold on the river. the only things that i see betting the river with any large frequency that we are ahead of is pure floats, and without a great read on the villain, i dont think we can ever call profitably here.

[1o BoY]

Imo most of the time he calls the flop when ahead, raises when behind.

[wuwei]

I would expect him to try to pick up the pot with a worse hand on the turn, the river bet feels like value. I would fold without any history.

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

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Imo most of the time he calls the flop when ahead, raises when behind.

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agree, im also leading the river for this reason

[NicholasJ]

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Imo most of the time he calls the flop when ahead, raises when behind.

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Good point. A flop call seems like monster or a medium strength hand that he suspects is WA/WB. Something like AK, KQs, JJ+, right? I guess I was thinking at the time that 88-TT were also very likely and dismissed AK because he didnt 4-bet pre or raise the flop. He also wouldnt turn these medium strength hands into bluffs, since they have lots of showdown value.

[overAchiever]

looks like a fold to me, I do not see many hands you beat that call on the flop and decide to value bet the river.

I'm pretty sure you are beat since the guys is TAGGY ...

[Some9]

so we bet the flop to get raised? I don't get it.