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Old 06-24-2007, 05:20 PM
mikechops mikechops is offline
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Default New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!

Realtime HUD

It's basically a HUD that builds it's own database from Full Tilt saved hand histories.

For a while now, I've been frustrated by not having 3-bet and 3-bet calling % available when playing. Apparently it is is quite difficult to get these from the Poker Tracker, so I decided to write my own HUD/database program. It certainly isn't a replacement for PT. I'd recomend you use the two side by side. Use PT for both keeping detailed records and playing reviewing hands post-session, but I think my program gives you more detailed info when playing than any other solution.

As I said I started being interested in 3-betting, but you can get most of the other stats as well. I've got the positional stats for each player. Here's a screengrab of the detailed stats on a player. For some reason the screen grabber didn't capture the overlays for the other players, but there is a customizable HUD panel for each player and a more detailed display - the yellow panel - you get if you click on the HUD panel.



I've tested Realtime for 6-max Hold'em NL, which is what I primarily play. It works for 9-seat full ring and also Omaha and Omaha Hi-Lo, though I haven't tested Omaha as much. It also supports limit versions of the same games, though I have only tested the limit games with observed hands.

If anybody has any suggestions for additional stats or improvements that they'd like to see - particularly for Omaha or limit games because I'm not really familiar with them - I'd be interested to hear. Also it works on XP and Win2k. I dunno about Vista or windows 98. If anyone tests it on with OS, please feel free to tell us your experience.

erm that's about all I can think to say about the program for now. I have written a ReadMe.rtf which comes with the zip file, but I don't think I'm going to reproduce it here.


Realtime is shareware for now. I wrote it mainly for fun. It is possible I will refine and adapt it for other sites. If I do that I will probably start to charge for it - it depends upon how much money I think I could make and how much of a pain writing protection is - but for now it is free and there is no time limit on the program.

Also it doesn't connect to the internets and tell me what your hole cards are [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] If anybody who knows about this stuff could verify that, it would probably make people feel better about downloading.

You can download the latest version here.

As I said, there is a readme file you should look at before setting it up. It isn't complicated but reading a page of instructions will make it easier
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:50 PM
_dave_ _dave_ is offline
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Default Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!

Mike,

This looks really good [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Also it doesn't connect to the internets and tell me what your hole cards are


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Nice to know, however

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If anybody who knows about this stuff could verify that


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Is way beyond my skills without source and compiler/settings [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I certainly don't mean to imply anything bad by that, just that theres no way I could verify such... maybe Juk with his mad ASM skills could [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


A few thoughts...

No river stats? decided no value to them? I like to know who to value bet hard / fire 3 barrels at, although I suppose this does take large sample size.

Is there some problem with the screen shot? or am I blind... I only see the detailed pop-up.


Again, looks awesome - will prob check it out in the next couple days [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Many thanks,

dave.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!

Yeah I wouldn't know how to verify non-holecard transmitting either. I think you could probably do it by seeing whether Realtime opened up any sockets. If it doesn't then it isn't talking to anybody. The nitty-gritty of how you do this is beyond me though.

Alternatively you could just trust me. I've been around here a while [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I could add specific river stats, but I think they are less useful. For one thing you don't get as many samples, but mainly because the way the hand has been played out up to that point influences the river decisions enormously. For now you just have the general agg, bet/call, raise/call/fold and c/r stats for the river. But if there's a lot of demand for them...

Yeah sorry the screen grabber didn't show the player panels. Imagine gametime+ with colors and an option to show stat abreviations.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!

anyway to get this working for stars? I have no rb at ftp
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!

Stars is next on my todo list. It don't think it will be take long, but will probably be fairly tedious. I'm going away next week and might get to it when I get back in early July.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!

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The sad thing is that it's almost impossible to be 100% sure for any reasonable size application. In theory it's possible to pack something away deep inside a segment and then have some code that unpacks and/or drops it based on a semi-random condition being met.


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Thus the need for source + exact compiler version, flags etc - if one can read, understand the source thoroughly (probably can't, but after many reads I kinda get FPHG 0.x) - then one can compile in identical environment which should produce an executable with matching MD5, SHA or whatever sums... Note I probably don't know what I'm on about much here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Of course it may not be a worry at all - If this does no injecting / hooking and simply parses HHF files, it can be effectively quarantined as you say with ProcessGuard, snoopfree, and a app level firewall.

My concern (Not really a concern given this is MikeChops, posting under real account - multiply paranoia by * 1000 if new reged user on 1st posting [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ) Is similar to your not wanting to release FPHG source - if it injects to FTP for whatever reason, theres almost no way to tell what it be doing, without source comprehension.


Mike, I will try this, and it looks most impressive. Do not think I am doubting your generous contribution, I certainly am not.

I just wish it was open source [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] How times have changed post RBCalc.exe [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

dave.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!

Did you ever finish realtime for Poker Stars?
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!

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I certainly don't mean to imply anything bad by that, just that theres no way I could verify such... maybe Juk with his mad ASM skills could [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The sad thing is that it's almost impossible to be 100% sure for any reasonable size application. In theory it's possible to pack something away deep inside a segment and then have some code that unpacks and/or drops it based on a semi-random condition being met. It could take weeks/months/years on a decent sized executable just checking execution paths to make sure this doesn't happen (not that I think their is anything wrong with this app or that many would go to this much trouble to hide a Trojan...).

Blocking stuff from Internet access and using something like ProcessGuard (or a DLL injection blocking firewall) is probably your best line of defence, although some virus scanner may be able to pick up on potential new threads by using a heuristic scoring system (this tends to work better for new [or polymorphic] viruses though, as they have a more well defined set of functional blocks that must be implemented for each and every virus).

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-25-2007, 07:20 AM
Q.E.D. Q.E.D. is offline
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Default Re: New Software. FTP HUD with 3-bets %!! Free!!!

Nice... Does this work on heads-up tables?
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:49 PM
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Default 1.03

1.03

http://www.mediafire.com/?2yjjumbcxlm

Change log

V1.03
Party support added. Currently experimental in that for legal reasons I can't actually play with real $! And play $ tables dont save out the HH files. All I can say is that it seems to work fine with the FPHG program to read observed hand histories. I also chucked a few observed files into my HH folder and it seemed to work. I can't think of a specific reason as to why it wouldn't work so long as the hand history folder are set up correctly. But I'd be quite surprised if there were no problems whatsoever. If somebody can try it out and let me know how it works I'd be grateful. My AIM/ICQ is "mike33139".

Fixed import bug... clears out FTP hands when importing Stars and vice versa - oops [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] thx Dtan

Your won $ column added.

Threaded archive import that doesnt appear to freeze. People were reporting freezes if they did anything other than wait for the import to finish. I think most of the time it wasn't actually freezing, but just appeared to because there was no feedback. Anyway if it freezes now, it likely really has frozen.

Status messages at bottom of list window. Tells you what Realtime is doing "scanning hands, loading database ect... See above.

Stars sit/stand messages processed. You should see a stats panel for a player the hand after he sits. Similarly his panel should disappear after he stands.

Cards0.png file added, for people without FTP... thx Brent!. They are based on one of Fozzy's mods, but I hope Brent altered them enough so he won't sue me. Anyway if you want the originals check out the FTP mods thread, because they look nicer. Or you can look in the FTP\graphics\table\elements folder and copy the cards0.png file from there.

Check-box on table list to switch off stats. Realtime was slowing down with multiple tables open on a new laptop. I actually got it to slow down on a desktop with around 30 Party and FTP full-ring tables open. Switching off stats on observed tables speeds things up.

Made Settings dialogs start with the folder names scrolled to the right. Hopefully it makes it easier to see if Realtime guesed at the wrong screen name.



For 1.04, I'm going to get around to a few of the stat requests people have made and generally tidy things up. If you had any problems setting things up please don't be too embarassed to PM me and let me know. Then I might be able to make some changes that will save others the hassle.

I'm fairly sure I'm going to keep the program as shareware. I'm pretty pleased how it has turned out and would have paid for it, had it been available before I started writing it. But I'm going to be moving house next month. I can't really be bothered with setting up a website etc and I'm not sure I will have the time to give the support necessary to charge for it.

If anybody has any problems, you can give me a ping on my AIM/ICQ. "mike33139". If I can't help you out right away, I'll try and set up a convenient time.
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