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Old 11-24-2007, 06:54 AM
Unphased Unphased is offline
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Default Re: hand vs Jonathan Little Wpt FT Bubble

If you are folding to a c/r then check behind, because he certainly doing this a large percentage of the time with the majority of hands he is defending. As played, fold, you're flipping at best.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:21 AM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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Default Re: hand vs Jonathan Little Wpt FT Bubble

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If you are folding to a c/r then check behind, because he certainly doing this a large percentage of the time with the majority of hands he is defending. As played, fold, you're flipping at best.

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Would you care to give us a range of hands he's defending with and a range he's jamming with and show how he's jamming over 50% of his defending range here on this board? There's no way that's correct.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: hand vs Jonathan Little Wpt FT Bubble

Are you serious Todd? He's jamming like.... almost all of his range that continues
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:13 PM
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Are you serious Todd? He's jamming like.... almost all of his range that continues

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I agree with that, maybe I misunderstood the other post. I thought he was saying that he's jamming with most of his preflop calling range, which is what I'm disagreeing with. I think, of the hands he's continuing after the flop with, he raising or jamming with 100%.

Edit: I took "defending" to mean calling out of the blind, rather than continuing on with the hand, which I think is what he meant, but only he can tell us.
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: hand vs Jonathan Little Wpt FT Bubble

fine, but then if we're folding to the raise, how can betting be good here? He doesn't have enough outs that giving a free card is nearly as big a worry as being pushed off the best hand, which will happen some huge percentage of the time. that's the point here.

you're right he might call with 44 and c/f the flop but guess what? we're gonna beat 44 on most turns and he might even bluff with KJh sometimes when a 2 peels off so we make even more...

edit: or just c/c with a 9 on the turn etc
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: hand vs Jonathan Little Wpt FT Bubble

meh, I had the T9 and thought I might get a call from Tx if I instapushed but it didnt happen. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: hand vs Jonathan Little Wpt FT Bubble

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meh, I had the T9 and thought I might get a call from Tx if I instapushed but it didnt happen. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Would any of you like to give your opinion of Jonathon checking top 2 on this flop?

I don't think we can just assume OP is going to make a continuation bet here and if he checks behind is everyone check-folding the turn if a club hits?
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