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Old 11-06-2007, 12:26 PM
creamfillin creamfillin is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - QQ outplayed by a donk?

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ai pf please. don't bet this turn if you aren't stacking off.

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donkey or not, is an ai preflop with QQ EV+ against a 4bet? I've never seen villain show up with less than KK+ here, but I have been running into AA lots lately. Doesn't Gelford say that QQ ai pf in NL50 is not ev+?

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Villain plays over half his hands. He's just clicking on buttons based on what he feels like doing at the time. His range is wide here and he probably stacks off with stuff like 88/99/TT.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:30 PM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - QQ outplayed by a donk?

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ai pf please. don't bet this turn if you aren't stacking off.

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donkey or not, is an ai preflop with QQ EV+ against a 4bet? I've never seen villain show up with less than KK+ here, but I have been running into AA lots lately. Doesn't Gelford say that QQ ai pf in NL50 is not ev+?

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well i say never use blanket statements


the guys a 50/20 donk, if you have reads that suggest that you shouldn't felt QQ pf, then fine, don't.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - QQ outplayed by a donk?

against a 50/20 im happy to get in preflop with QQ
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:41 PM
Pokerdemic Pokerdemic is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - QQ outplayed by a donk?

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ai pf please. don't bet this turn if you aren't stacking off.

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donkey or not, is an ai preflop with QQ EV+ against a 4bet? I've never seen villain show up with less than KK+ here, but I have been running into AA lots lately. Doesn't Gelford say that QQ ai pf in NL50 is not ev+?

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well i say never use blanket statements


the guys a 50/20 donk, if you have reads that suggest that you shouldn't felt QQ pf, then fine, don't.

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got it. my temporary insanity due to the fact that I got money in 4 times last night after being 3bet with qq/kk and all times <AA.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:57 PM
AZplaya AZplaya is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - QQ outplayed by a donk?

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against a 50/20 im happy to get in preflop with QQ

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yep especially for only 100BB. AI pre = profit
If you decide to just call pre, shove over his flop lead with a double fist pump.
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