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Old 10-05-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Play along with KK

So we can either re-raise here or flat call in an attempt to trap a smaller pair that may be an overpair (99-QQ). What do we think the infinite AF does to us here? Infinite AF means he hasnot called, but in my mind that does not mean he necessarily throws chips around either.

I personally raise it to $20.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:36 PM
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Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $6.50</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, SB calls $9.50

Flop: ($32.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, SB calls $15

Turn: ($62.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($62.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $21.20 and is All-In</font>, Hero...?
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Play along with KK

Here bets $22.

Though we could make an argument for a check here, since we are certainly in a WA/WB situation here. An Ace is cruching us and the other likely holdings (smaller pp's) are being crushed by us. Dammit...as I type this out I am thinking that a check makes more sense....there are no draws (except and unlikely draw to a gutshot or someone spiking a set).
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Play along with KK

Son of a [censored]....Hero checks. What are we beating now that calls?
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Play along with KK

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check, youre only beating a PP whos definitely folding to a turn bet

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Old 10-05-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Play along with KK

4:1 to call. This sucks complete ass.

So let's say the preflop 4-bet call range for villain was JJ+ and AK/AKs. We are looking at the following:

Board: Ad 2s 7c Qc 7d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 65.789% 63.16% 02.63% 12 0.50 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 34.211% 31.58% 02.63% 6 0.50 { KhKs }

I think that with that kind of equity we have to call this, unfortunately.

Also, if you post here that villain had 87o I am demanding a screename be PM'd. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


EDIT:

Hmmm, if we figure villain for QQ+ and AK/AKs then this gets *really* ugly:

Board: Ad 2s 7c Qc 7d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 96.154% 92.31% 03.85% 12 0.50 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 03.846% 00.00% 03.85% 0 0.50 { KhKs }

What do we think his flop 4-bet range really is? JJ may be loose...and if it is then the river is a clear fold.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Play along with KK

Keep in mind, villain is 16/11.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Play along with KK

Check flop, check turn, ummmmmmm his river shove would be bigger so i fold.
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:22 AM
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FWIW, I folded river. Probably lost $15 more than I should have.
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