There's no way to fold 7th here, is there? (stud h/l)

[jester710]

Looking mainly for comments on 7th, as I think the rest of the hand basically plays itself. If I am wrong in that assumption, though, please correct me.

7 Card Stud High-Low ($5/$10), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $2 (converter)

Seat 1: $266.75
Seat 2: $137.75
Seat 3: $597.50
Seat 4: $105
Seat 5: $199
Seat 6: $286.50
Seat 7: $41
Hero: $172.25

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in

4th Street - (2.40 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (2.70 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (5.70 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

River - (8.70 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (11.70 BB)

[Alchemist]

I might have checked 6th since you got no help from that J and both of them paired. Although it probably doesn't help them that much, it gives them more redraws and enough reason to keep hanging on, so they're pretty unlikely to fold on that street which is what you really want. Seat 4 is probably drawing to a better low than you, perhaps a wheel.

I think it's close since your diamonds are totally live, but you still basically have to outdraw Seat 4 for low.

You're definitely calling the River after making Aces up although I don't feel great about it now that Seat 5 wakes up and bets into both of you.

[dmesey]

no i dont think you can fold because he could have hit his low draw on the river and you are priced in to call here. I wouldnt be worried about seat 4 at all. I think you have to just make a crying call here and hope your 2 pair is the best high.

[Andy B]

I would give strong consideration to checking sixth. Folding the river for one bet wouldn't occur to me in a million years. He could easily be betting a low, or maybe even a worse two pair.

[xxeximusxx]

although you can't fold 7th, you are beat probably more than 90 percent of the time unless villan is an absolute idiot. Betting their makes no sense unless he has a boat, flush, or is an idiot.

[SweetLuckyMe]

You may be beat, but you can't fold aces up for one bet there.

[jester710]

Thanks for the feedback, guys. It didn't occur to me at the time to check 6th. And I was pretty sure calling was correct on 7th, but I worry that I talk myself into calling on the end too much when I'm pretty sure I'm beat.