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Old 10-05-2007, 01:21 PM
docnuclear docnuclear is offline
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Default 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

I am 22/20/3 no info on villain. Fwiw I never bluff, maybe like one hand in 150 I am involved.
When he calls my 3 bet I put him on TT+ AQo+
When he calls my flop bet I put him mainly on TT JJ QQ maybe a slowplayed AA KK.
I would play AA KK and AK the same.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BB): $197
UTG: $208
MP: $44.35
CO: $716.05
BTN: $206.15
SB: $142.50

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22</font>, BTN calls $15

Flop: ($45) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $31</font>, BTN calls $31

Turn: ($107) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $75</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $150</font>, Hero folds

Results: $257 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN mucked and WON $254 (+$126 NET)
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:22 PM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

b/c he's folding almost none of his range on this flop
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

He should fold AK on this flop IMHO. Having only been called I think the second barrel is a good bet as he'll likely fold 1010-QQ given that of a range of JJ-AA+AK he is beaten by most of it.

I think villain has KK or AA here and your timing is just unfortunate.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

He called your 3bet PF so K helps him not you. Try to bluff when a card falls that you think the opponent will think has helped you and not him... just take your thinking to another level if you know what I mean.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:49 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default Re: 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

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He called your 3bet PF so K helps him not you. Try to bluff when a card falls that you think the opponent will think has helped you and not him... just take your thinking to another level if you know what I mean.

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lol the king shouldnt have hit him
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:52 PM
abysss92 abysss92 is offline
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Default Re: 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

LOOOL

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

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LOOOL

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD

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ouch

(fwiw, i think it was a good double barrel on your part)
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:27 PM
Acevader Acevader is offline
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Default Re: 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

Man, makes you feel a little sick that! Some good timing on villains part although I personally would be thinking of abandoning my turn plan when that king hits. The king on the turn is defo more likely to hit villain than hero given the action so far IMHO.
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:31 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

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He should fold AK on this flop IMHO.

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Eff that you should never fold AK there imo.
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Old 10-05-2007, 02:34 PM
Acevader Acevader is offline
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Default Re: 200 nl : why do my bluffs never work

So you float with AK in 3-bet pots if you don't hit and the board is low regularly? That must be great for people who's raising range is AK, 99-AA and the occassional SC's. It's a dream come true for those with a tighter 3-bet range.

I 3-bet quite regularly and can say with confidence that peeling turn cards unimproved with AK here will lose money to me in the long run and there are peeps with far tighter 3-bet ranges than mine.
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