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Old 10-21-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

Villian is 12/6/1. (99)

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $111.87
Hero (UTG): $100
MP: $130.34
CO: $97.78
BTN: $104.24
SB: $103.55

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="red">CO raises to $16</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $12, MP folds

Flop: ($37.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero... ?

Am I leading or crai? (I though they were my two best options). Is anyone 4-betting pf, folding pf?

His 3-betting range is JJ+/AK ? Am I just putting myself in a RIO spot, where the best I can hope for is splt?

How about BF?
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

I'd fold pre. Only 100 hands, but until he starts loosening up I'm gonig to assume he's at least pretty nitty. And I don't like 4 bet shoving against a nit who may not squeeze light. And I don't want to play AK oop against a nitty villain, because even if you flop a K you can face some tough spots.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

preflop 4 betting sucks against a 12/6
What hands do you put villain on that you beat?
Imo c/rai is really bad.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

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preflop 4 betting sucks against a 12/6
What hands do you put villain on that you beat?
Imo c/rai is really bad.

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Basially I thought that I couldnt check fold this hand, and he makes c-bet's on this board with alot of his range that I still beat. Meh... basicaly crai was the way of me getting the money in the middle and putting him to a decision. Plus the pot was ok size wise and I though he would fold AQ/JJ/AK(no heart) TT... stuff like that. Obv he calls w AA/KK/QQ but is that purely his 4-betting range?

I'll admitt I was totally lost in this hand.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

He's folding hands you beat if you CRAI, and calling with hands that beat you. He may fold AK, and *maybe* AA with no heart, but your hand is a bluff if you CRAI.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

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He's folding hands you beat if you CRAI, and calling with hands that beat you. He may fold AK, and *maybe* AA with no heart, but your hand is a bluff if you CRAI.

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Ok but lets say he has JJ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or TT[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]... basically im trying to say that my hand is ok, he could have better but likely not and thee is a decentpot ot be won.

Someone offer me a line with a reason for this flop.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

I don't even always call pf against this clown (maybe if hand sample was bigger. But still...)
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

This is why you don't call preflop.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

OK.... I get pf... I agree. And now the mildly more taxing job of offering advice for the flop ?
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: 100nl. AK on K high monotone.

I'd probably check/fold flop. This guy isn't squeezing light and this hits his range hard. Also, it's a small sample but his AF isn't very high, and he's probably at least somewhat thinking, so may realize that you could have hit this flop pretty good too.

I'll c/c if his flop bet is pretty small, and fold to any more bets.
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