Quick Rules/Etiquette Question

[maddo]

NL Cash Game
Pot is heads-up.
I check river and my opponent bets.
I call and he immediately throws his hand into the muck.

Can I or any player ask the dealer to retrieve his cards and show them? Is it considered bad etiquette to ask? Should he have shown them? Was it bad etiquette for him to muck them without showing?

What are the general casino rules/etiquette for this type of situation? Is there any difference if any player is all-in?

Thanks.

[nowags]

You called and he mucked. you won. Call it good.

It would probably be bad etiquette to gripe about seeing his cards. You at least know he was bluffing, so what other information do you really need?

[ScottHoward3.0]

why do you need/want to see them?

anybody can ask to see them, but its not a nice thing to do.
hopefully you ask to see them and they happen to be good enough to win.that would be great, no?

he gave you the pot, so him mucking is a nice thing.

[DeuceKicker]

It is HORRIBLE etiquette. Do not ever ask to see someone's hand when they bluff/muck.

[maddo]

I am asking because I like to run my home game as close to a casino game as possible (in terms of rules/etiquette). This is so that my friends and I know how to act when playing at a casino, so that we don't (a) make mistakes that could be costly, and (b) annoy other players by acting inappropriately.

Is there any chance of someone just answering the questions?

Cheers.

[MediaPA]

another question - if he bluff/mucks (hit the muck), must I show my hand down, or can the pot just be pushed to me?

I know it's bad ettiquette to ask to see a mucked hand, but at the same time I don't want to show mine if I don't have to.

[MediaPA]

Can I or any player ask the dealer to retrieve his cards and show them? YES
Is it considered bad etiquette to ask? YES
Should he have shown them? NO, he is forfeiting his right to the pot by mucking.
Was it bad etiquette for him to muck them without showing? NO

What are the general casino rules/etiquette for this type of situation? Mucked hand is dead, other hand must be shown to win.
Is there any difference if any player is all-in? NO, some casinos have a rule if a player is all in and there is no more possible action (ie heads up), you must turn your cards over.

[n.s.]

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What are the general casino rules/etiquette for this type of situation? Mucked hand is dead, other hand must be shown to win.

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In the places I've played, this isn't true. If your opponents mucks, then you can take the pot without showing your cards (but hold onto your cards until the pot is pushed your way).

I agree with everything else you've said.

[maddo]

I would like to know what happens in this case also.

[maddo]

Thankyou very much.