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Old 11-25-2007, 11:42 AM
Bedz Bedz is offline
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Default $ 16 bubble play

Button did exacly the same thing the hand before, when I was in the BB. All in or fold?

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BTN: 3,640
Hero (SB): 1,965
BB: 1,385
UTG: 6,510

Pre-Flop: (300) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to 1,200</font>, Hero?
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:45 AM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: $ 16 bubble play

Fold even if is doing this with atc.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: $ 16 bubble play

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Fold even if is doing this with atc.

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Hmm, I thought this was a hard one, how can it be good folding even if he is pushing any two?
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:20 PM
bighomeytim bighomeytim is offline
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Default Re: $ 16 bubble play

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Fold even if is doing this with atc.

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Hmm, I thought this was a hard one, how can it be good folding even if he is pushing any two?

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Well yeah but with a raise like that how can you put him on any 2. Remember any little pair will have us crushed ev wise.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: $ 16 bubble play

If he is pushing ATC then I think you shove here but I disagree slightly with DannyO because I can't see any FE here.

However, just because he did it the hand before doesn't mean he has not had 2 legit hands in a row.

It is very marginal IMO and I may let this orbit go if all I have is the 2 hands of information you quote. This is by no means someone pushing ATC.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:57 PM
aghasax aghasax is offline
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Default Re: $ 16 bubble play

Seems like you have to be sure he opens ATC or folds the bottom part of his range to push here, and only with that read you can't be sure of either of that. Even if he is opening ATC and calls every time ( I think you can count on him folding to your push only a very small percent of times), it's still very marginal.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: $ 16 bubble play

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If he is pushing ATC then I think you shove here but I disagree slightly with DannyO because I can't see any FE here.

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I disagree, you often see a bully on the bubble, IMO this is an easy push.
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yes he does get my 300 almost every round; im real tight in this situation. Maybe AQs &amp; TT+. Again you got 10bb, assuming you got decent bubble knowledge you can easily wait for better/more clear +EV spots.

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IMO we don't got a lot of time, are we waiting for AA??

am I going blind, I push this all day against aggro
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:39 PM
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Fold even if is doing this with atc.

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Nooo. Really?
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: $ 16 bubble play

with 3rd in chips, decent stack in bb, and a mediocre hand... this is an easy fold.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:55 PM
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with 3rd in chips, decent stack in bb, and a mediocre hand... this is an easy fold.

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So if button is doing this with ATC, what
do you call with?
Or does he just get your t300 every round?
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