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11-13-2007, 02:35 PM
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Re: JJ vs. chezlaw
I don't really object to the flop peel plan (in fact, since I don't know how chezlaw plays, I don't object to any plan that's been recommended so far [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]). But I think it's worth mentioning that if chezlaw is 3-betting an UTG raise with a range of, like, AA-77, AK-AQ, and KQs, and if his flop raise is legit (as in at least top pair), then he's going to have a set of kings 1/9 of the time. Which may not sound like much, but we're pretty far short of proper odds to chase a set and are counting on implied odds, and, well, 1/9 of the time we really are going to get that big-street action on a turned jack that we were hoping for.
And, having said that, I'll add that I never trust TAGs in spots like this when they know who I am so I would probably just call down [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. 
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#2
11-13-2007, 03:01 PM
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Re: JJ vs. chezlaw
The BB still in the hand makes this one interesting, as I think he's raising the flop lighter than he would in a HU pot in position. After BB folds the flop, I can't do anything but get to SD here, as big pot, he has TT-88 enough.
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#3
11-13-2007, 03:48 PM
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Re: JJ vs. chezlaw
[ QUOTE ]
The BB still in the hand makes this one interesting, as I think he's raising the flop lighter than he would in a HU pot in position. After BB folds the flop, I can't do anything but get to SD here, as big pot, he has TT-88 enough. [/ QUOTE ] As usual I misread the action. The fact that Chez is protection raising here makes it a call down IMO.
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#4
11-13-2007, 03:53 PM
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Re: JJ vs. chezlaw
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] The BB still in the hand makes this one interesting, as I think he's raising the flop lighter than he would in a HU pot in position. After BB folds the flop, I can't do anything but get to SD here, as big pot, he has TT-88 enough. [/ QUOTE ] As usual I misread the action. The fact that Chez is protection raising here makes it a call down IMO. [/ QUOTE ] With TT or worse I think this would be a pretty terrible raise on Chezs' part unless he has a read that bb is super retarded. Its capped pf and the bb just donks into the aggression. Chez has to hope that both bb and PJ(who capped pf) have worse than a K.
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#5
11-13-2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: JJ vs. chezlaw
BB didn't donk, BB c/f
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#6
11-13-2007, 04:09 PM
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Re: JJ vs. chezlaw
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] The BB still in the hand makes this one interesting, as I think he's raising the flop lighter than he would in a HU pot in position. After BB folds the flop, I can't do anything but get to SD here, as big pot, he has TT-88 enough. [/ QUOTE ] As usual I misread the action. The fact that Chez is protection raising here makes it a call down IMO. [/ QUOTE ] IF the flop was HU, you would say call down because he's raising with xx to make you fold TT-QQ
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#7
11-13-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: JJ vs. chezlaw
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The BB still in the hand makes this one interesting, as I think he's raising the flop lighter than he would in a HU pot in position. After BB folds the flop, I can't do anything but get to SD here, as big pot, he has TT-88 enough. [/ QUOTE ] As usual I misread the action. The fact that Chez is protection raising here makes it a call down IMO. [/ QUOTE ] IF the flop was HU, you would say call down because he's raising with xx to make you fold TT-QQ [/ QUOTE ] As said. My read on chez is based on too few hands. Assuming I had faith in that read I would call down HU. Yes!
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#8
11-15-2007, 12:40 AM
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Re: JJ vs. chezlaw
Chez has gotten out of line vs me in the past (and vice versa) but I could find a fold on the turn. He's not messing around here unless he's on tilt, and he's controlled that well lately, better than me.
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