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Old 11-08-2007, 08:32 AM
Mat Mat is offline
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Default 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop

Villain is a donk 53/26/5 (65h), pretty aggressive.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $120.10
UTG+1: $1.019.10
Hero: $905.00
Button: $548.90
SB: $391.25
BB: $1.807.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $140</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($295, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($295, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $200</font>, Hero calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($695, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $400,</font>


Call or fold river ?
Also, do you most prefer b/f the flop ?
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:20 AM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop

I call vs this guy
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop

I call, get shown K7o and then start tilting.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop

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I call, get shown K7o and then start tilting.

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He had KK but I still started tilting.

So, you think my line is good, no one bets the flop ?
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop

As played I also call the river.

I like the check, it sucks if he CR bluff you on flop and you have to fold. Better to check and induce bluffs and bets from weaker hands.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop

If he's a super aggro donk that NEVER folds, I would c/fold turn and wait for a better opportunity to play for stacks. As absurd as it sounds, many donks get monster stacks because some otherwise good players start doing stupid stuff like trying to bluff them or play for stacks with underpairs.

As weak as losing $140 with something that's most likely the best hand sounds, it'll most likely make him even more eager to bluff you next time when you'll actually have something like TPGK or an overpair.

I've learned my K7o lesson many many times in the past and I am not going to repeat my mistakes.

Oh ya, about b/f... Very read dependant (which is easy to get since he plays just about every hand). Some donks DO fold c-bets and some do fold later on and some learn to fold after watching you play. It is extremely important to watch every one of their hands since they are the ones you'll be playing.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop

pretty sure i b/f 220 on the flop.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:27 PM
A__theKevlar__2 A__theKevlar__2 is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop

i call river
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop

I would b/c $210 on the flop expecting this guy to shove any PP 77-JJ, any draw, random air etc. I think stacks are too shallow to comfortablly b/f.
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