Sick Situation in 2-4 PLO game on Stars

[XCappucinoX1]

So I am playing this 2-4 PLO game on PS and the following hand arises:
Seat 1: XCappucinoX1 ($485.70 in chips)
Seat 2: pooey ($884 in chips)
Seat 3: 8oggo8 ($400 in chips)
Seat 4: fzoohtt ($837.20 in chips)
Seat 5: lbrahim ($213.95 in chips)
Seat 6: bigjwhoa ($410 in chips)
XCappucinoX1: posts small blind $2
pooey: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to XCappucinoX1 [Tc Ks 8d Ts]
8oggo8: raises $10 to $14
fzoohtt: calls $14
lbrahim: calls $14
bigjwhoa: folds

Preflop Raiser is on stone cold tilt, so i can call a raise from him with almost anything so i decide to see a flop here.

XCappucinoX1: calls $12
pooey: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Qs 6d Td]
XCappucinoX1: checks
pooey: bets $40
8oggo8: calls $40
fzoohtt: raises $187 to $227
lbrahim: folds


I would like to hear your opinions on what I should do here.
I will post the rest of the hand history shortly

[iggymcfly]

So you have no read on the flop raiser at all? If that's the case, I'd just shove. He's not going to need a lot to come over the top of the weak lead. I think 66 and QT are going to be in most players' ranges here and you'll see a draw fairly frequently too.

[cmyr]

yeah plus backdoor spades are obv. coming.


There are times in my life when I've laid this down, though. There is a group of players that will only c/r with a set, and they're a good group to ID.

Although if you don't push, you won't have the potential thrill of spiking a one-outer.

[2handed]

I think its important to note that the bettor and the raiser are both 2BI+ deep making it less likely the raiser has anything but the most premium drawing hand or QQ. I still probably push here without a read, but you are not giving up a ton of equity by folding.

I know it is unorthodox, but what about just calling? If we put the raiser on big draw or QQ+ it would be clever to give the other players the odds to come in with a draw since if you are good against the raiser the other to players are likely to be blocking each other from hitting there flush or straight draws. I guess I would be pushing most turns if I cold-called on the flop. If I were to call the flop then both players got all 840 in behind me I may vomit and fold. I am probably way out there with this, so tell me why I am wrong.

[Hattifnatt]

I think I let it go untilted. not a big fan of the pf call.

[2handed]

Looking at the hand again, if you know you are against a mid-stakes stars regular I think it is a good fold.

[grizy]

Against an unknown I'd shove but there is a lot of players on stars against which I'd fold.

PS: Stars' regulars at mid stakes are generally tighter than what I see on FT or UB (not that many games run there). I just play Stars because the UI lets me play a lot of tables at once.

[chinaski101]

iggymcfly tilts me...such an easy fold from where youre at.

[Perestroika]

This can't be a fold without reads.

[Rob121]

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This can't be a fold without reads.

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