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Old 11-22-2007, 06:00 AM
deaders deaders is offline
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Default JJ, meowcheow tag donks the flop

This guy is 19/14/3 but has done some weird stuff. I have a note saying that he called a 3bet oop with 33, and check minraise bluffed the turn with 33 after I checked the flop behind.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $247.05
SB: $240.95
BB: $143.05
UTG: $200
MP: $167.70
CO: $200

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $17

Flop: ($51) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $36</font>,
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: JJ, meowcheow tag donks the flop

I think I call.

EDIT: Yeah def. call. Raising isn't a very good option and folding is obv. out of the question.
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: JJ, meowcheow tag donks the flop

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I think I call.

EDIT: Yeah def. call. Raising isn't a very good option and folding is obv. out of the question.

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So what do u do when the turn is a blank and he bets out 2/3 of pot. Fold?
If u raise the flop it makes the next streets a lot easier to play, u can gain a cheaper showdown and u protect from draws The problem is that it folds out many of the hands u beat. I'm torn here, but I'd say i raise, intending to check it down/get a cheap showdown if he calls.
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: JJ, meowcheow tag donks the flop

can't see doing anything but calling.
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:07 AM
Aces0Kingz Aces0Kingz is offline
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Default Re: JJ, meowcheow tag donks the flop

just call agreed
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:42 AM
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Default Re: JJ, meowcheow tag donks the flop

if turn comes a blank and villain bets we fold right?
and if villain checks, hero?
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: JJ, meowcheow tag donks the flop

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I think I call.

EDIT: Yeah def. call. Raising isn't a very good option and folding is obv. out of the question.

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So what do u do when the turn is a blank and he bets out 2/3 of pot. Fold?
If u raise the flop it makes the next streets a lot easier to play, u can gain a cheaper showdown and u protect from draws The problem is that it folds out many of the hands u beat. I'm torn here, but I'd say i raise, intending to check it down/get a cheap showdown if he calls.

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How exactly do you gain a cheaper showdown? If you raise, he can push. If you raise the flop and check the turn, he can push river with a wide range, plus he gets a free card, while our hand has very little chance of improving over the next 2 streets.
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:46 AM
JFsports JFsports is offline
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can't see doing anything but calling.

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Old 11-22-2007, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: JJ, meowcheow tag donks the flop

call once and fold to resistance on the turn
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: JJ, meowcheow tag donks the flop

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can't see doing anything but calling.

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Well he's bluffy - seems like he is gonna fire two barrells. How bad is folding?
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