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Old 11-08-2007, 03:10 AM
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This is not completely true even though proponents like to claim it is. Waterboarding can cause plenty physical harm as well as death.

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Yeah, and you CAN choke to death eating doritos. Doesn't make it cruel and unusual.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:19 AM
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CAN choke to death eating doritos

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peanuts, wasn't it?
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: What About Mukasy\'s Position on Waterboarding?

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This is not completely true even though proponents like to claim it is. Waterboarding can cause plenty physical harm as well as death.

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Yeah, and you CAN choke to death eating doritos. Doesn't make it cruel and unusual.

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No one's forcing doritos down your throat against your will, are they? That someone could be stupid enough to try and equate the two is mind boggling.

And plz to be 'splaining how waterboarding is fine and dandy now when we have punished foreign and domestic soldiers for its use in the past.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:50 AM
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No one's forcing doritos down your throat against your will, are they? That someone could be stupid enough to try and equate the two is mind boggling.

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Anything done improperly can cause, as you say, "plenty of harm and even death". Doesn't make it cruel and unusual. Is that plain enough for you to understand?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: What About Mukasy\'s Position on Waterboarding?

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No one's forcing doritos down your throat against your will, are they? That someone could be stupid enough to try and equate the two is mind boggling.

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Anything done improperly can cause, as you say, "plenty of harm and even death". Doesn't make it cruel and unusual. Is that plain enough for you to understand?

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This is still retarded. Waterboarding is intentional asphyxiation. There is no way to safely asphyxiate someone. And of course there's no way to guarantee that it is done properly every time or that it is done only to big bad terrorists.

And it should seem pretty cruel and unusual to a normal human being to be borrowing a technique from the Spanish Inquisition, Nazis and the Khmer Rouge, but I guess some don't mind that company.

Waterboarding is the same as a mock execution, which is illegal under U.S. as well as international law (like it matters to you).
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: What About Mukasy\'s Position on Waterboarding?

I am amazed at the responses on this thread, specially the ones that claim, there is no permanent damage, it's only pain, so it is OK.

Ii is NOT ok. The US was instrumental in punishing people for water boarding following the second world war for instance.

What has the US become? A Sadists club? It is starting to look like it!
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: What About Mukasy\'s Position on Waterboarding?

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I am amazed at the responses on this thread, specially the ones that claim, there is no permanent damage, it's only pain, so it is OK.

Ii is NOT ok. The US was instrumental in punishing people for water boarding following the second world war for instance.

What has the US become? A Sadists club? It is starting to look like it!

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Would it have been right to inflict pain on POWs in WWII to get actionable intelligence? Put another way is it always wrong to inflict pain to gain actionable intelligence? Even in times of war?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: What About Mukasy\'s Position on Waterboarding?

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I am amazed at the responses on this thread, specially the ones that claim, there is no permanent damage, it's only pain, so it is OK.

Ii is NOT ok. The US was instrumental in punishing people for water boarding following the second world war for instance.

What has the US become? A Sadists club? It is starting to look like it!

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