Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > STT Strategy
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-07-2007, 10:55 AM
ThePhoenix78 ThePhoenix78 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 24
Default Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

After a bit of a bad stretch, I decided to withdraw funds from my FTP account and just leave $100 and rebuild a BR. So I'm playing $2 SnGs for now. Off to a solid start with 9 cashes in 16 tries. But had two early bustouts this morning on hands that were decent but not locks. In both cases, I had a sense I was ahead, but my question is whether you think getting all my chips in as I did in both cases was unnecessary at the low blind levels I was at or whether you think I'm likely ahead enough of the time to take that chance.

Hand 1

Second hand of the tourney, so no read at all. After the action to this point, I should probably assume I'm behind QQ-AA, but in just a handful of SnGs at the $2 level, I've seen some pretty bad all-ins, so figured I had decents odds against the range of a typical $2 donk and called. But think that was an unnecessary risk to take?

Full Tilt Poker Game #4096299628: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (31121460), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:04:28 ET - 2007/11/07
Seat 1: 1-Fremder- (1,485)
Seat 2: ThePhoenix78 (1,470)
Seat 3: money4420 (1,500)
Seat 4: 45_cents (1,470)
Seat 5: roebuck (1,500)
Seat 6: brucedesbories (1,605)
Seat 7: ICESWH (1,470)
Seat 8: DJ912 (1,500)
Seat 9: Ima Doofus (1,500)
ThePhoenix78 posts the small blind of 15
money4420 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThePhoenix78 [Jh Jd]
45_cents folds
roebuck folds
brucedesbories folds
ICESWH folds
DJ912 folds
Ima Doofus folds
1-Fremder- has 15 seconds left to act
1-Fremder- raises to 60
ThePhoenix78 raises to 210
money4420 folds
1-Fremder- has 15 seconds left to act
1-Fremder- calls 150
*** FLOP *** [8c 8d 2h]
ThePhoenix78 has 15 seconds left to act
ThePhoenix78 bets 275
1-Fremder- raises to 1,275, and is all in
ThePhoenix78 calls 985, and is all in

Hand 2

In this hand, the raiser was raising to 150 for the third hand in a row. He hadn't been crazy all tourney, but I had him labeled as fairly loose-aggressive. Making the big all-in re-raise with TT is perhaps too risky, but I've been reading Collin Moshman's new SnG book and with solid, but vulnerable hands like AK, JJ, TT, I think he recommends such play during the middle levels. I could be wrong though. What do you think?

Full Tilt Poker Game #4096375315: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (31121604), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:24:07 ET - 2007/11/07
Seat 1: apeart (1,480)
Seat 2: Krumpf77 (1,695)
Seat 5: SpecialBonus (1,515)
Seat 6: ThePhoenix78 (1,385)
Seat 7: FK LASER (2,505)
Seat 8: NoSkillz1 (2,980)
Seat 9: Kriie (1,940)
Kriie posts the small blind of 25
apeart posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThePhoenix78 [Tc Th]
Krumpf77 raises to 150
SpecialBonus folds
ThePhoenix78 raises to 1,385, and is all in
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-07-2007, 11:06 AM
Acey Acey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 116
Default Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

Hand 1 you can spare chips, hand 2 is icm problem and the push is probably good against a loose guy.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-07-2007, 11:46 AM
ThePhoenix78 ThePhoenix78 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 24
Default Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

Any other opinions?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-07-2007, 11:49 AM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Boomer Sooner
Posts: 10,871
Default Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

Converter, please.

1)Easy call.
2)Shove, 77+,AJ seems like a probable opening range. ICM will probably say it's a shove.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-07-2007, 01:03 PM
pokerbasti pokerbasti is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Nürnberg, Germany
Posts: 32
Default Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

call in 2nd hand!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-07-2007, 01:09 PM
Little John Little John is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,843
Default Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

[ QUOTE ]
Converter, please.



[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-07-2007, 01:29 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: planet earth lol
Posts: 2,761
Default Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

both are perfect.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-07-2007, 01:36 PM
Takeover_inc Takeover_inc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: back to the 6.50s
Posts: 209
Default Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

[ QUOTE ]
both are perfect.

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-07-2007, 02:16 PM
Webster Webster is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus WI
Posts: 3,649
Default Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

[ QUOTE ]
Converter, please.

[/ QUOTE ]

Show me one that works with FT!

NONE work that are listed in the FAQ!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-07-2007, 02:20 PM
Perplexity Perplexity is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 806
Default Re: Two straight early bustouts...did I take unnecessary risks?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
$2 + $0.25 Sit & Go
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">1470</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">1500</font>)
MP1 (<font color="#0000cc">1605</font>)
MP2 (<font color="#0000cc">1470</font>)
MP3 (<font color="#0000cc">1500</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">1500</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">1485</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">1470</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">1500</font>)

Blinds: 15/30

Pre-flop: (45, 9 players) Hero is SB J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">6 folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BTN raises to 60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to 210</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, BTN calls 150

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (495, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets 275</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BTN goes all-in 1275</font>, Hero calls 985

BTN lost -1485
Hero lost -1470
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.