***World Champion Red Sox Offseason Thread***

[craig]

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That's why I threw the thought out.....to see what other's think of both the viability and probability of this scenario.

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I think there is a better chance they end up with Bonds for a year and I don't think that is very likely.

craig

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gorden edes says the sox are gonna meet with hiroki kuroda

http://www.japanesebaseball.com/play...p?PlayerID=986

hes a fa so no posting fee stuff

[Myrtle]

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I think Manny Ramirez should still be in the lineup. He's kinda good.

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He's absent in this lineup because he's no longer a Red Sox, which enables them to afford A-Rod.


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Did he die in a car accident? Based on your roster, it doesn't seem you got much for him in a trade.

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Addition by subtraction.....He's got a year left on his contract, so what do you do if you don't move him?

Move him for some legit prospects, free up the 20M to toss at A-Rod.

Again, I am NOT advocating this move, just throwing it out because it might be a legitimate option.

And to further fan the fire, he'd end up with.....da Bronx Bombers!

[craig]

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gorden edes says the sox are gonna meet with hiroki kuroda

http://www.japanesebaseball.com/play...p?PlayerID=986

hes a fa so no posting fee stuff

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Is there a formula to somehow translate these stats?

[Dynasty]

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gorden edes says the sox are gonna meet with hiroki kuroda

http://www.japanesebaseball.com/play...p?PlayerID=986

hes a fa so no posting fee stuff

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Wow. How did this happen two seasons ago?

2006: 189.1 IP, 1.85 ERA, 1.025 WHIP, 144 Ks.


He seems to have very good control based on BB/IP.

[craig]

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Addition by subtraction.....He's got a year left on his contract, so what do you do if you don't move him?

Move him for some legit prospects, free up the 20M to toss at A-Rod.

Again, I am NOT advocating this move, just throwing it out because it might be a legitimate option.

And to further fan the fire, he'd end up with.....da Bronx Bombers!


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Where are they going to move him (that is not a rhetorical question)? I would imagine that prospects wouldn't be necessary if his salary was off BOS hands. Free up 20M to toss at Arod? It appears that A-Rod lines his walls with 20M.

Why would he end up in NY?

craig

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theres probably MLEs somewhere if u google hard enough

my guess is that kuroda is about halfway between daisuke/schilling and lester/wake/tavarez

[Dynasty]

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theres probably MLEs somewhere if u google hard enough

my guess is that kuroda is about halfway between daisuke/schilling and lester/wake/tavarez

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Wikipedia says this:

Hiroki Kuroda (born February 10, 1975) is a professional baseball player from Osaka, Japan. He is a starting pitcher for the Hiroshima Toyo Carp. He led the league with a 1.85 ERA in 2006, solidifying his reputation as one of the best pitchers in Japan. In a six year period (1999-2005), Kuroda lead the Central League in complete games.

He joined the Japanese olympic baseball team for the 2004 Summer Olympics, and won a bronze medal. He was also chosen to play in the 2006 WBC, but was unable to participate in the competition due to an injury.


So, he's one of Japan's best pitchers and he'll be 33 years old next year.

[Vyse]

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He's absent in this lineup because he's no longer a Red Sox, which enables them to afford A-Rod.

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Nate Silver, in the same article referenced above, had a very good point about A-Rod. Boston doesn't need him. Even if they don't resign Lowell (which I am thinking they might), do you really want BOS to sign him for 10 years and 300M? It will be good for a few years, but he isn't going to bring more people to the games and BOS should be competing for a while anyways.

craig

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I disgaree, I think Bos can use A-Rod. Manny's gone after a year and A-Rod can replace him well. Epstein is good enough at developing young players and finding good cheap buys in the FA market but has struggled a bit in signing star players. A-Rod fits that bill, fills a need, is a better value than what I think Lowell will get, and Epstein's good enough to make up the $$ in other aras.

It would also make Bos the dominating best team for the next 4-5 years.

[Myrtle]

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Addition by subtraction.....He's got a year left on his contract, so what do you do if you don't move him?

Move him for some legit prospects, free up the 20M to toss at A-Rod.

Again, I am NOT advocating this move, just throwing it out because it might be a legitimate option.

And to further fan the fire, he'd end up with.....da Bronx Bombers!


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Where are they going to move him (that is not a rhetorical question)? I would imagine that prospects wouldn't be necessary if his salary was off BOS hands. Free up 20M to toss at Arod? It appears that A-Rod lines his walls with 20M.

Why would he end up in NY?

craig

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Again, don't misunderstand me, I am NOT advocating this action.

I'm trying to take into account all of the various maneuvering that I anticipate happening in the off-season.

They could waive him (not like they haven't done it before?), or trade him outright for "prospects".

He'd end up on the Yanks for three reasons.....

The Yanks have lost A-Rod and need a replacement.

Manny is a native NY'er and that would sit well with their fan base.

The Yanks could spin it as positive PR to their fan base, and god knows, right about now they need SOMETHING positive!

....and as a wild card, let's not forget that somewhere out there, Scott Boras is weaving his 3rd or 4th level strategy.