AQ $10NL

Tking4unc · #1 03-12-2007, 05:48 PM

Forgive me bc I dont know how to use the hand converter...

Table 'Pandarus II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: hyttynen ($14.80 in chips)
Seat 2: socrates7766 ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 3: scooterb62 ($6.45 in chips)
Seat 4: MrSkill210 ($12.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Mufdi81 ($14.60 in chips)
Seat 6: GrasKarpfen ($4.30 in chips)
Seat 7: assahai ($16.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Tking4unc ($10.20 in chips)
Seat 9: Alderisio ($10 in chips)
socrates7766: posts small blind $0.05
scooterb62: posts big blind $0.10
Alderisio: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tking4unc [Qh Ad]
MrSkill210: calls $0.10
Mufdi81: folds
GrasKarpfen: calls $0.10
assahai: calls $0.10
Tking4unc: raises $0.45 to $0.55
Alderisio: calls $0.45
hyttynen: folds
socrates7766: folds
scooterb62: folds
MrSkill210: folds
GrasKarpfen: folds
assahai: calls $0.45
*** FLOP *** [7s Qs 2h]
assahai: checks
Tking4unc: bets $1.50
Alderisio: folds
assahai: raises $14.20 to $15.70 and is all-in

aslowjoe · #2 03-12-2007, 06:04 PM

I am always in a quandry here about this type of hand. Against a real donkey he could have called with q7 or he is scared against a flush and hit his set. Both are incredibly donkey moves but so is c/r all in.
I hate losing 16BB's with TPTK but most times i think this is a flush draw or a complete bluff with under pp.

kurto · #3 03-12-2007, 06:08 PM

no reads? Hard to say in a vacuum.

if he's a complete maniac I call.

If he's decent I think about it... if he's a superaggressive LAG... this could be a flush draw.

If I just sat at the table I probably fold. If I know its a superagressive idiot, I call.

Tking4unc · #4 03-12-2007, 06:10 PM

I really was leaning towards 77 or 22 to be honest with you... I lead into that flop pretty solid and I figured he had me on AA or KK or hell maybe even AQ and figured I coudlnt fold it. I hadnt been at the table long but he'd played very few hands and I didn't really think flush draw to be honest with you. I said "AQ" before I folded and I assume he would show a worse hand or flush draw... could be wrong but I was thinking set

FloppyJ · #5 03-12-2007, 06:18 PM

Tough call. With no read, I lean towards a fold there.

No need to give him free information by telling him what you are capable of folding though. Silence is best, "nh" if you have to say anything at all.

kurto · #6 03-12-2007, 06:24 PM

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I really was leaning towards 77 or 22 to be honest with you... I lead into that flop pretty solid and I figured he had me on AA or KK or hell maybe even AQ and figured I coudlnt fold it. I hadnt been at the table long but he'd played very few hands and I didn't really think flush draw to be honest with you. I said "AQ" before I folded and I assume he would show a worse hand or flush draw... could be wrong but I was thinking set

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Personally, I find it harder to put people on hands at these tables because so many players play dumb.

The reason I suggested a flush draw is because a player's overbet is often a semibluff... they'd just assume you fold but if not, they have the flush draw.

I'm less inclined to believe a set unless you've shown a history of not being able to lay down a pair. If he has a set, I think its a bad play (at least at the higher tables) because he's going to fold out too many hands and lose value.

That being said... its a $10 table and people play weird.

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I said "AQ" before I folded and I assume he would show a worse hand or flush draw... could be wrong but I was thinking set

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Honestly... I can't figure out people who show their hands. Why give away information? You don't want him to know what you raised with, what you'll fold, etc. If anything, you've just told him you can be pushed off 1 pair hands.

Jurrr · #7 03-14-2007, 02:14 AM

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Honestly... I can't figure out people who show their hands. Why give away information? You don't want him to know what you raised with, what you'll fold, etc. If anything, you've just told him you can be pushed off 1 pair hands.

[/ QUOTE ]I do it sometimes because I am mentally challenged.

There would be a raise, a reraise and a rereraise preflop and I'd muck my QQ but say "QQ" in chat afterwards (when AA gets all in vs. KK) when it really serves little purpose other than to gratify my ego by bragging about a big laydown and carries a HUGE downside.

I really really need to stop doing that.