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Old 08-02-2007, 11:09 AM
Hobb Hobb is offline
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Default 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

wow u guys are aholes. i posted a simple question and got flamed pretty hard. and then locked. here it is, rephrased:

100bb, you raise 6 handed utg w/qq to 3.5bb. cutoff calls. small blind raises to 14bb total. you have qq. 4bet or call?
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i just moved up to 10/20nl but my good friend who i've been semi-coaching asked me this simple question... and at small/mid stakes i really am not sure whether the standard play is to 4bet w/this stack size. basically i'm trying to ask how fishy you guys are at these stakes, & how light you guys will call off either pre or postflop. so yeah you could say ur gettin levelled

and yes we are in position, that's my bad... i meant theres the flat call off the cutoff behind us which is worrisome.

Also, my student made reads off bet sizing that villain had 99-KK.. obv we are weighting the range away from KK

so let me break it down for you guys:

1. will SS unknowns toss in 150bb (the actual situation) w/TT preflop? 100 bb?

2. how likely are SS unknowns to stack off w/TT on a nine high board, let's saying by betting and getting raised all in? J-high board? A-high board?
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

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u jerks

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wow u guys are aholes

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I stopped reading there.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

I think posting jerks in the title isn't going to help your cause !

tl;dr
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

But just out of curiosity I read the first line...

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100bb, you raise 6 handed utg w/qq to 3.5bb. cutoff calls. small blind raises to 14bb total. you have qq. 4bet or call?

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Thanks for repeating, us jerk aholes have trouble remembering our cards between actions.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

I'm a jerk? You're a jerk.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

I don't think any good SS player will stack off pf for 150 or 100 bb with TT.
With QQ and position on the 3 bettor it does depend on his squeezing frequency. Usually just call and be ready to get it all in on the flop on a low board and yes lose to KK/AA and flopped sets; of course 4 bet guys who 3 bet all the time unless with position you can extract more value with QQ from their wide reraising range.
hope this helps, might wanna ease up on the insults tho
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

what do you do at 10/20 ?? Is it really that different with QQ pf ?
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

i didnt mean all of u were aholes/jerks. just the 4 or so that flamed me. the rest of u are good people.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

i read the other post cue ball was helping you and not beung a jerk at all and the other guy wasnt being too bad
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: 3betting w qq at small stakes STRAT post u jerks

wtf id edit if i could but now i cant
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