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Old 10-21-2007, 03:02 AM
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why is he capping 62o if he knows you have AKs.. I guess I'll never even understand limit holdem even if I could see the other players cards.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:03 AM
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7) New (albeit minor) dramabomb I have been holding back: Those at the 2006 WSOP probably remember an AP booth in front of the Rio Amazon room, where they were giving away bags of popcorn. You were asked to give $1 for each popcorn bag, which was promised to go to a specific Las Vegas charity. According to a reliable source, this money, which added up to $10,000, was simply stolen by Scott Tom and friends, and never given to the charity! The source also told me that a longtime AP employee quit over this matter. While arguably minor compared to the 7-figure sum stolen in this scandal, this incident was despicable and cheated a good charity out of $10,000 of promised money. Since AP is all about repairing their image at the moment, I figured I'd take the time to right this wrong. NOTICE TO AP: If my reliable source was somehow incorrect about this, let me know and tell me which charity received the money. I will personally verify your claim and publicly apologize if wrong about this. However, I would be shocked if this information I was given was incorrect, given the high degree of reliability of this particular source.

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I didn't think my opinion of them could be lowered but I was wrong.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: AP thread 87.1 - AP and UB ownership puzzle

who do we contact to get restitution on our dollar? I know I probably bought 2 or 3 bags of popcorn.

That seriously takes the cake as far as scumbags go. You couldnt make that crap up if you tried
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:05 AM
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why is he capping 62o if he knows you have AKs.. I guess I'll never even understand limit holdem even if I could see the other players cards.

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Because if the AK misses it is possible to bluff him out.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:06 AM
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why is he capping 62o if he knows you have AKs.. I guess I'll never even understand limit holdem even if I could see the other players cards.

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I'm just going to take a shot in the dark here and say that implied odds and fold equity are off the charts when you can see your opponents hole cards, and reverse implied odds are are pretty, shall we say, minimal.

I know, I know, no strat in BBV.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:08 AM
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why is he capping 62o if he knows you have AKs.. I guess I'll never even understand limit holdem even if I could see the other players cards.

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I'm just going to take a shot in the dark here and say that implied odds and fold equity are off the charts when you can see your opponents hole cards, and reverse implied odds are are pretty, shall we say, minimal.

I know, I know, no strat in BBV.

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pretty sure the hands are totally hypothetical
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:08 AM
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This whole ordeal has taught me alot about people in different ways. Also that humor(no trolling doesnt count eskimo) is always nice even in serious situations.

so ill just chime in like the rest, good work -everyone- and lets hope this [censored] gets sorted out and that people pays for this.

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wtf................. lol

who are you?

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just someone who hates trolls who take sensitive [censored] over the top "just because"


now lets leave that topic.

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the correct answer was: 'nobody'

lets leave it at that
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:11 AM
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why is he capping 62o if he knows you have AKs.. I guess I'll never even understand limit holdem even if I could see the other players cards.

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Because if the AK misses it is possible to bluff him out.

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wasn't possible to bluff him out since he called him down.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:11 AM
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Dan, thanks for your efforts.

But I really don't think you can count potential bets saved by a cheater as lost income to our heroes.

The real question is "If greycat never existed, how much more money would I have?" And to a first order of approximation, that amount is your NET losses to him, as shown in your PT DB (and in Absolute's records, I hope).

Anything else will simply muddy the waters, not to mention being hopelessly impossible to calculate.

As for the popcorn, well, meh. I suppose I should be more shocked than I am. But when you look at what % of revenue "net proceeds" from an honest sale of this type are, and what % of that goes to actual needy recipients instead of charity overhead and downstream "leakage"... well, let's just say I'm not hugely distraught. It's bad, of course. But just another distraction from the main issues here, I think.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:11 AM
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just in... gambling911 proves once again they are useful

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The article says that guy's name is Juan, but Nat said a source confirmed it as John Ethan.

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Not sure if your leveling, but there are areas where Juan could be pronounced "John".

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I did not even think of that because of his last name Ethan. Good point, I suppose.
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