Messed up pre flop spot in UB 120 Bounty

[Bond18]

I mean like, WTF? I'm folding AJ here quick, never folding AK. But this idk...


Hand #45913310-26 at Fri801pm25KBounty-010 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 31/Aug/07 20:30:03

muckthenuts is at seat 0 with 3645.
stevie444 is at seat 1 with 2360.
majdasad is at seat 2 with 4025.
KBroz is at seat 3 with 2335.
donkywisperer is at seat 4 with 1635.
2ofakind503 is at seat 5 with 2090.
ionabill is at seat 6 with 3665.
martycohen is at seat 7 with 335.
madbluffing05 is at seat 8 with 2305.
mazskills is at seat 9 with 5105.
The button is at seat 5.

ionabill posts the small blind of 10.
martycohen posts the big blind of 20.

muckthenuts: Ac Qh
stevie444: -- --
majdasad: -- --
KBroz: -- --
donkywisperer: -- --
2ofakind503: -- --
ionabill: -- --
martycohen: -- --
madbluffing05: -- --
mazskills: -- --

Pre-flop:

madbluffing05 folds. mazskills calls. muckthenuts
raises to 80. stevie444 calls. majdasad folds.
KBroz folds. donkywisperer folds. 2ofakind503
folds. ionabill folds. martycohen goes all-in for
335. mazskills calls. muckthenuts calls.
stevie444 goes all-in for 2360. mazskills folds.
muckthenuts???

[nath]

i dunno. i kinda think you have to call, but i think you put yourself in a gross spot to begin with and should have iso'ed or folded the first time around (since you already have a guy who limp/called your raise and the push cold, he's probably dead money).

[Requin]

Yeah I'd shove first time and call this.

[adanthar]

what, none of you guys have ever seen someone flat call one raise with a big pair before?

[nath]

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what, none of you guys have ever seen someone flat call one raise with a big pair before?

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you've never seen someone isolate with a wide range when there's like 25% of his stack in dead money in the pot?

[adanthar]

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what, none of you guys have ever seen someone flat call one raise with a big pair before?

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you've never seen someone isolate with a wide range when there's like 25% of his stack in dead money in the pot?

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if he's good enough to do that he gets a note

most of the time he's not thinking on that level, it's UB.

[ZJ123]

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what, none of you guys have ever seen someone flat call one raise with a big pair before?

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you've never seen someone isolate with a wide range when there's like 25% of his stack in dead money in the pot?

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if he's good enough to do that he gets a note

most of the time he's not thinking on that level, it's UB.

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stevie444 is a "ranked" P5er

[shaundeeb]

stick it in,

[Todd Terry]

Call for the double bounty opportunity.

[bigballz]

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stick it in,

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shaun you say this too much

but here i agree

yes adanthar he could have a monster

but most of the time nath's logic is right