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Old 06-27-2007, 11:31 PM
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Here is the Summary View again this time with just 3/4 Bet stats selected in the stats to return. You can choose more stats, in fact you can return all of them at once if you want, but the more you add the slower it gets especially when the DB is in the multi millions of hands.

My current DB is up over 5 million hands and after spending about 2 to 3 minutes doing a Compress and Analyze (which should probably be done once every million hands or so) through PostgreSQL this report took 20 seconds to run and returned stats from about 4000 players who I have more than 1K hands on!



You'll notice on the 3bet stats that it totals slightly above 100%. Still need to fix this as it includes 5 bet results in with the 3bet results.

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Old 06-28-2007, 01:43 AM
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And one more screen shot for tonight - this is the Filter Creator since there have been a bunch of hand filtering questions.

This tab shows what you can do with Hand Values - in this example I'm looking for hands where I had top pair on the flop but an overcard landed on the turn.



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Old 06-28-2007, 09:20 AM
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The approach I have taken now is to make it as easy as possible for other people to write hand history parsers for sites but I will still oversee and manage it all at a code level to make sure everything is safe for HM users.


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This sounds like a great idea. Both safe and efficient!

Your product looks very good, cannot wait to use it. For price i would suggest:
100 dollar to buy it.
20 dollar subscription every two year to get the updateded versions.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:35 PM
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hi, i'm also very interest in this product.
but can you add a few thing to it.
1)option to import HH from not support site. (we can tell the software which line goes to where on the software).
2) vista support with aero on.
3)auto lineup when table is resized. (something PAhud can't do)
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:21 PM
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hi, i'm also very interest in this product.
but can you add a few thing to it.
1)option to import HH from not support site. (we can tell the software which line goes to where on the software).
2) vista support with aero on.
3)auto lineup when table is resized. (something PAhud can't do)

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Hi,

1) I will be publishing the xml format for hands so you could create a parser that converts your hand histories into this format and then, HM will support the site. However, in general I'd rather you just send me the hand histories and I'll make sure the site is supported.

2) It is written in C# 2.0 using "Aero Aware" controls so I think it should work well in Vista. I don't currently have Vista but will be installing it soon.

3) Earlier versions of my HUD supported this although it wasn't perfect. Resizing is pretty much standard now in poker clients so I'll be doing what I can to make this work as well as possible.

Thanks.

rvg
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: New Software: Holdem Manager

I'd like to see this priced around the $100-150 mark, with major upgrades (new features/rewrites rather than bug fixes) priced at ~$30.

To ensure you don't spend time supporting old versions you could make it clear that each version will be retired from support after a certain period of time has elapsed following the release of a subsequent version.

If everyone understands this from the off, then I don't see a problem.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:23 PM
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I posted this on my forums a little while ago. It isn't 100% certain but pretty close.

Pricing

It seems like everyone is suggesting basically the same thing and it is pretty much in line with what I was thinking.

Pricing will be $65 for the manager and $35 for the HUD. They will be sold seperately. I'll need to come up with some way to ensure that people don't buy 1 copy and then give it to all of their buddies but whatever I do it won't be intrusive. My approach with Tourney Manager was basically "if you buy it once you don't pay for it again" and I've been handing out codes whenever asked. With HM I'll need to take a slightly different approach but for the most part it will be the same hassle free experience!

Tourney Manager customers will get the manager for $55 and the HUD for $30 for the first month following the official launch. Holdem Manager does not replace Tourney Manager - it will in fact work with Tourney Manager and I will be spending a bunch of time adding new functionality to Tourney Manager in the near future.

There will be no support fee or ongoing subscription fee of any kind at this point. If support becomes a huge burden then I might need to re-evaluate this but I don't expect this to change. I might create (or purchase) very large, very value added plugins and charge a small fee for them although I don't have any specific plans at the moment. Right now every single idea in my head for this program will be included with the program - I'm just throwing out the plugin thing because it might happen some day.

I think that's it!

rvg
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:56 PM
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I have no problem paying 100 bucks for the program, but the problem is that I have a desktop and laptop in SF and a desktop and laptop in LA. And who knows when I'll be upgrading my comp. What I'm saying is that I just don't want it to be a big hassle if I want to install it on my comp. And my guess is, most that are buying this can probably afford to not give it to their friends.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:58 PM
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I'd say this pricing is waay too low.. but I'll take it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: New Software: Holdem Manager

[ QUOTE ]
I posted this on my forums a little while ago. It isn't 100% certain but pretty close.

Pricing

It seems like everyone is suggesting basically the same thing and it is pretty much in line with what I was thinking.

Pricing will be $65 for the manager and $35 for the HUD. They will be sold seperately. I'll need to come up with some way to ensure that people don't buy 1 copy and then give it to all of their buddies but whatever I do it won't be intrusive. My approach with Tourney Manager was basically "if you buy it once you don't pay for it again" and I've been handing out codes whenever asked. With HM I'll need to take a slightly different approach but for the most part it will be the same hassle free experience!

Tourney Manager customers will get the manager for $55 and the HUD for $30 for the first month following the official launch. Holdem Manager does not replace Tourney Manager - it will in fact work with Tourney Manager and I will be spending a bunch of time adding new functionality to Tourney Manager in the near future.

There will be no support fee or ongoing subscription fee of any kind at this point. If support becomes a huge burden then I might need to re-evaluate this but I don't expect this to change. I might create (or purchase) very large, very value added plugins and charge a small fee for them although I don't have any specific plans at the moment. Right now every single idea in my head for this program will be included with the program - I'm just throwing out the plugin thing because it might happen some day.

I think that's it!

rvg

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Can you use a system with a registration server like PokerAce, instead of the one used with Tourney Manager? I'm anal about performance, and reinstall my OS several times a year. With PokerAce, you get 1 permanent key you can use on 2 PCs. The software checks with a server occasionally to make sure you're key isn't being given out. I hate they way most poker software changes the key with each new OS reinstall, and it creates more work for the software author as well.
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