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Old 11-19-2007, 12:24 PM
stea stea is offline
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Default Help Me please I don\'t understand your odd system

Hello all

I'm french and my bookmaker offer a odd on decimal like 1.30 and i don't understand the relation between my systeme odd and your system like 110

I begin to understand the over/under ( it's no difficult ) and spread ( is handicap for us )

I think it's better understand if i give an example :

NFL Today game TEN @ DEN odd for my book :
Winner ( i think is money line for you )
TEN 2.05
DEN 1.80

Spread
TEN +1.5 1.91
DEN -1.5 1.91

Super spread
TEN -4.5 2.70
DEN +4.5 1.40

TEN +7.5 1.40
DEN -7.5 2.70

I have also many odd for many bet like MT/FT
pts in 1st quarter ect But for the moment i concentrate on spread and winner

XCan you explain the relation between my odd and your odd system

With this odd do you have a good sugest for tonight

I read the FAQ ( quicky perhaps ) and i don't find info on this subject
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:56 PM
Rustjive Rustjive is offline
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Default Re: Help Me please I don\'t understand your odd system

http://www.smartcapper.com/tool_odds_converter.html

There's an odds converter.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:57 PM
1MoreFish4U 1MoreFish4U is offline
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Default Re: Help Me please I don\'t understand your odd system

I can help a bit. The Euro books show the ML winner as your total return. It is misleading compared to the US system.

Example 1 TEN ML 205 - if you bet $100 - your book takes it out of your account. You win, they put $205 into your account.
US method would say TEN+105 - you bet $100 win $105 get $205.

Same result - different setup.

Example 2 - If you bet $100 on Den-1.5 and they win by 2 or more, you get $191 in your account.
US book would say Den -1.5 -110 which works out the same - if you bet $100 on Den you'd win $91.

I hope that makes sense to you.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:02 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: Help Me please I don\'t understand your odd system

[ QUOTE ]
I can help a bit. The Euro books show the ML winner as your total return. It is misleading compared to the US system.
US book would say Den -1.5 -110 which works out the same - if you bet $100 on Den you'd win $91.

I hope that makes sense to you.

[/ QUOTE ]

Confused me- I thought if you lost, you'd lose 110 and if you win, you'd win 100.... so, if the European books take out the 110, they'd return that and your extra $100 for a total of $210 in your account after the Denver win.

Yes?
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:14 PM
iillllii iillllii is offline
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Default Re: Help Me please I don\'t understand your odd system

You'd only lose $110 in an effort to win $100 if you bet $110 to begin with. In Larry's example you bet only $100 on Den, so you win only $91 (technically, $90.91). It is the same payout percentage, which is $10 of profit for every $11 bet.

So yes you got it.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:07 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: Help Me please I don\'t understand your odd system

thanks- dummy me in misreading his bet
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Help Me please I don\'t understand your odd system

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I'm french and my bookmaker offer a odd on decimal like 1.30 and i don't understand the relation between my systeme odd and your system like 110



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The decimal amount multiplied by your bet amount is how much you would get paid out, including your original bet, in the event you win.

e.g. Bet $100 at 2.5 get paid out $250 for $100 "profit".

The way I understand the american system is that if the number is negative you need to bet that amount to win $100 and if the number is positive that is the amount you profit if you bet $100.

eg -150 means bet $150 to "profit" $100 if you win
+150 means bet $100 to "profit" $150 if you win

So the relationship between the decimal and the american system (to get from one to the other is

Decimal = (Bet amount + To profit amount)/Bet Amount

2.5 = (100 + 250)/100 (+150)
1.67 = (150 + 100)/150 (-150)

If decimal < 2 then American =
100/(Decimal - 1)

If decimal > 2 then American =
100*(Decimal-1)

Hope this is clear. Please would others correct me if I [censored] this up.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Help Me please I don\'t understand your odd system

Thanks all for your information
I began understand
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