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Old 05-29-2007, 07:11 PM
MisterBob MisterBob is offline
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Default Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

Ok, background: Homegame at a friends place which is running fast and wild. 4 of 7 people in the game are pretty drunk, im sober.

Co which is a really bad player who overvalues his hands and plays a lot of rags limps in, so does button and sb(which is playing a solid TAG game). I raise to 14 with AA in the bb. CO calls, button folds, sb calls.

Stack sizes: Me 1k, CO 500, SB 1.2k
My table image was of a quite solid tag who could mix it up a bit and play some lag.

Flop 237rainbow. As soon as the flop hits I can see CO squirming in his seat and looking really excited about the flop. SB bets 7 (wtf???), I raise too 50 and CO instaraises too 175 total. SB folds.


I???

As the game was playing I really didnt want to play a 500bb+ pot with this villain with just one pair, I could easily felt him with a stronger hand, but isnt it very weak to fold that flop?
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:37 AM
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Default Re: Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

Seriously??? Can nobody give me some insight into what I should do with this hand? I felt it was a really tough spot.
Did I post something wrong since nobody is trying to help me out?
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

If you can trust your reads on CO - this should be a good fold. There's no chance you go to SD w/o putting in the remaining 300 bucks. And in this kind of game, i would raise more preflop being oop for the rest of the hand.
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

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If you can trust your reads on CO - this should be a good fold. There's no chance you go to SD w/o putting in the remaining 300 bucks. And in this kind of game, i would raise more preflop being oop for the rest of the hand.

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I do this as well.
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

Well, I trust my read on CO, which is that he LOVES his hand, but his range is HUGE when it comes to what is a monster in his head. This could be anything from TPokK, overpairs to some funky two pair combos and of course sets.

I can also see that I should have raised more pf, 20ish maybe?
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

Is the game really loose enough for him to call with 73,72? I could see 22, 33, 77. I dont know how he plays his sets but I would have thought he would slowplay his set, putting you on an overpair. I think you can discount 2 pair, unless he's really terrible limping in with 7-2. You're only really scared of a set so if you have a huge adrenaline tell on him then I say go with your instincts. Is he drunk btw? that could influence any hand analysis lol
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:53 AM
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Default Re: Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

folddddddd according to your reads unless hes the kind of idiot that thinks this is a huge flop for a7 or 88.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

Well, the problem is that he IS the kind of idiot that thinks this is a huge flop for A7, 88+ and he is also terrible in the sence that he limps in with 72+ all sorts of crap.

I would also think that he would slowplay his sets and other big made hands, just cause he's a fish and they tend to slowplay when the flop big. He's not drunk, but also not sober, heh [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

There are some people who like to call big pots with 72 and try to bluff you out of it simply to laugh in your face in live games. Could be one of those moments. If you regularly play with him though, finding out that he is willing to limp and call a raise with 72 could be a sign you're in a game worth playing [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

On such an uncoordinated board I dont think an OESD is making this move. So I think you can discount a draw. He might have been slowplaying kings and is excited to see rags hit.. But yeah, it's a tough spot cause its an irrational play, and the fact everyone's been drinking doesnt help
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:16 AM
David Nicoson David Nicoson is offline
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Default Re: Confused on flop with AA, 1-2nl deep

If his range is really this wide, then I think you should be willing to go down to felt. If he'll call $14 with 72, do you think he'll call $25? In a deep game, you have to consider your raise in the context of both the pot size and as a fraction of the stack sizes.

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Board: 2s 3d 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.634% 58.94% 00.69% 276585 3255.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 40.366% 39.67% 00.69% 186165 3255.00 { 77+, 33-22, A7s, 73s-72s, 32s, A7o, 73o-72o, 32o }
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