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Old 10-05-2007, 11:05 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default $27 JJ, 2 overcards

Hi,

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1255)
UTG+1 (t3535)
MP1 (t1425)
CO (t90)
Button (t3775)
SB (t1950)
BB (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t100

Flop: (t325) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t325) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets t200</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

vilain is unknown. He has folded all hands so far.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:30 AM
veeRtje veeRtje is offline
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Default Re: $27 JJ, 2 overcards

I would probably lead flop, as played a fold is fine.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:09 PM
ceavou22 ceavou22 is offline
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Default Re: $27 JJ, 2 overcards

I thinks its fine. I would absolutley love to c-bet this flop but we need to save the chips for upcoming 50/100 level to retain FE in our stack.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: $27 JJ, 2 overcards

thats fine.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:48 PM
Rusty Nails Rusty Nails is offline
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Default Re: $27 JJ, 2 overcards

I bet the flop here. He needs a pretty big hand to call here.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: $27 JJ, 2 overcards

Betting the flop here is really bad.
It is really hittable.
Almost every better hand calls. Almost every worse hands fold and you have a relatively strong draw, which can't call a raise.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:24 PM
auc hincloss auc hincloss is offline
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Default Re: $27 JJ, 2 overcards

yeah looks good.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:27 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $27 JJ, 2 overcards

i play it the same. pudge explained it well.
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:29 PM
Rusty Nails Rusty Nails is offline
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Default Re: $27 JJ, 2 overcards

[ QUOTE ]
Betting the flop here is really bad.
It is really hittable.
Almost every better hand calls. Almost every worse hands fold and you have a relatively strong draw, which can't call a raise.

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Why is betting that bad? I agree that all the worse hands fold and most of the better hands call, but I think a lot of players will bet worse hands into you on the turn after a check. That's why I will usually bet this flop and be done with it unimproved.

I don't think you have much of a draw here if behind so if you are CR'd you aren't giving much up.
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:09 PM
Crash0veride Crash0veride is offline
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Default Re: $27 JJ, 2 overcards

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I thinks its fine. I would absolutley love to c-bet this flop but we need to save the chips for upcoming 50/100 level to retain FE in our stack.

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this is a bad to time for a c-bet with the board texture.
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