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Old 11-06-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

villain is 30/10/6 after 80 hands

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BB ($23.95)
UTG ($28)
Hero ($31.90)
CO ($31.95)
Button ($23.35)
SB ($19.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($14.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $16.35 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $16.35.

River: ($7.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $47.05
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

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Old 11-06-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

hmmm I am thinking that this is like A5 or like 99 or so. I dont see how your ahead here often enough to call
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:04 PM
THoM. THoM. is offline
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Default Re: 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

What hand would he reraise the flop with that you have beat?
Have you seen him raising draws before?
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

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villain is 30/10/6 after 80 hands

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This is fine, imo.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

It's close, but I think I fold without a specific read that he would bluff a significant amount of the time. He's aggressive postflop, but not so much preflop, so you can run into 99+ and there's only one smaller overpair that doesn't have you beat, which means that the only part of his range (aside from air) you are ahead of are draws, but there are just not enough combinations (and not enough equity) to make up for all the other hands. I'm not certain but I think i'd put my calling threshold for overpairs here to like JJ or maybe even QQ.

I guess a lot just depends on how much you think he will bluff. A high AF doesn't necessarily prove a lot of bluffing ,it just indicates he doesn't call much.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

Can you explain your decision to call the flop raise AND the turn bet? Were you waiting for a non-spade?
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

I'm folding the turn, but I'm weak-tight.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

What would be a good range for calling here? TT+? I think alot of draws are in his range.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: 25NL reasonable stack off with small OP?

If he's bad, if you know he does this with draws, then yes, but when someone doesn't take the free card on the turn, and just overbets hard, it takes a distinct read for me to put him on a draw.
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