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Old 05-30-2007, 01:44 AM
DCal Zone DCal Zone is offline
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Default Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

Just wanna hear some feedback on this hand. I'll tell my thought process in a little bit. I know it's marginal, just curious as to if people think it's complete spew.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $1,791.95
BB: $659.20
UTG: $480.30
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $1,283.00</font>
BTN: $840.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $6.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, BTN calls $24.00, 3 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($63) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $48.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $138.00</font>, Hero calls $90.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($339) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $270.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $1,121.00</font>

Pot Size: $1,730.00
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

wtf, he's got 7s full, nooooooooooooooo
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

Against EM2, who is a nit, I think I can fold do the flop raise.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

From my experience with EM2, he likes to make smallish raises in position on the flop with a wide range of hands. He's done this multiple times against me and other players. I think his flop raising range is a lot bigger than most people give him credit for.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

dont worry it's not marginal at all

it's just complete spew
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

isn't he a huge nit?
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

He's a nit preflop, but very good and a little fancy after the flop.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

A ton of hands that beat me can be taken out of his range preflop. He'd 3bet overpairs, AJ sometimes, and 99 and 77 sometimes.

When he raises me on the flop, I am very confident I am ahead of his range. Like I said, he likes to raise in position on flops a lot to try to take down the pot or take control of the hand. The turn is pretty much the best turn imaginable for my hand. I think he'd just call a lot of the time with just a 9 on the flop, and no draws got there. My hand is also pretty transparent as being marginal, as I'd 3bet the flop with a set or a big draw.

Given that I'm ahead on the flop, the turn is a very good card, and I look weak, I don't like folding on the turn. Shoving is better than calling imo because there's a ton of scare cards that could come on the river. He can also call this with some worse hands (overcards and flush draw, top pair+flush draw)
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

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dont worry it's not marginal at all

it's just complete spew

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: Marginal/\"High Variance\" play against EmpireMaker2

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dont worry it's not marginal at all

it's just complete spew

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So you think he has 77 or J9 a huge % of the time here?
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