Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Shorthanded
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-03-2007, 07:33 PM
Romulet Romulet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 168
Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

Raise, by not raising you are puttng him on 99 A9 or a garbage flush all of which are unlikely 4 bet hands.
And yes I call the reraise.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-03-2007, 07:39 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: trying to 363 u
Posts: 14,916
Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

heis is right above. if you think you should raise here, you misplayed the turn.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-03-2007, 10:16 AM
stokken stokken is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 587
Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

What do you accomplish by raising? Is villain likely to believe you would raise with QQ-KK,AJ, how aggro is he?
Possible hands in villain(by river)AK-Q, KK-99?(To narrow?)

The fact that the board pairs the A is good for you, imo, lots think it less likely you`ll have one then. I agree that few flush hands would be played like this, unless he adds 8,7s hands to his raiserange here?
Anyways, even so it doesnt make up for alot of combos.
99=3 87s,76s=2, AQ=4, AK 1, KK=3 QQ=6
What would you do if he comes over the top again? Will he call with many hands you beat? I can see a case for raising, but it takes reads imo

Stokken
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-03-2007, 10:56 AM
bigmac366 bigmac366 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: getting pwned @ 2/4
Posts: 976
Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

dependeds on how much of a spaz he is imo. if he is a total tard who runs wierd bluffs all the time then this is an easy raise/call. if he's a good lag, its still raise/call i guess.....but i hate calling if he 3 balls us.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-03-2007, 11:26 AM
MacGuyV MacGuyV is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: old school
Posts: 10,100
Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

I would raise this. Maybe vs. a regular tag the river doesn't improve your hand but w/ your limited read, the chances that he's a complete idiot drastically increases when you completely remove AA from his range IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-03-2007, 12:22 PM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: what used to Denmark before we beat them
Posts: 1,307
Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

Raise/call, we have top trips top kicker that all I need to know. What are you putting him on? 99 is the only likely hand I can see we're behind. Easy raise/call...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-03-2007, 04:23 PM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,733
Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

If villain is a spazz cap the turn...
He could be drawing and take a final stab on the river betting into you. You also have equity to improve over 99/22/33 or A9/A3/A2. The only hands you improved ahead of on the river are is 92/23/93 surely hes not this spaazy?

I actually just call the river though, because there are a few worse aces in his range but there are a lot that beats you too. Most of his air will probabily fold to your river raise. (unless hes a super super spazz, then u can raise)

I think someones much more likely to bluff the river and call the turn cap than 3-bet bluff this river.

It also slightly depends on his PF spazzyness, how tight is he capping here? Im assuming like 15% of his hands, but yo udidnt really give a read.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-03-2007, 06:07 PM
Carmine Carmine is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,250
Default Re: Top trips on the river. What are we doing?

BM, don't you think it is important to give a little better description for villian than just Spaz. How is one suppose to interpret exactly what that means. Does spaz mean maniac that caps JTs/33/A9s preflop. Does it mean he doesn't consider anything but his two cards etc. This info might help us decide if we should have capped the turn, if there's value in a river raise etc.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.