Cultural Differences re: morality/sex/etc (semi-NSFW topics)

[highhustla]

lol. As if the hooker isn't the cheaper/less stressful choice elsewhere in the world.

[cianosheehan]

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My perception of America is that it also a country of contradictions. For example, by Western standards it is very religous and moralistic, yet it also has the largest porn industry.

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The reason the porn industry is so big here is because of the suffocating religious atmosphere. Sex, sexuality and the human body itself is so vilified that many people in this country have a pretty warped sexuality.

In other countries (like a fair number of the European countries) where sex and the human body are a lot less taboo, there's much less of a need for porn. People are having and enjoying sex and their own sexuality a lot more so there's not much to be gotten from pictures on the internet.

Only in places like the US where people's sexuality is stunted and blunted almost from birth are outlets like porn and strip clubs so needed, since the idea of comfortably relating sexually to another person outside of (and sometimes even inside) a dedicated, long-term monogamous relationship becomes such a daunting task for many.

Sexuality is such a basic human drive that nothing can make it go away. However groups (like some religions and governments) can systematically destroy many people's ability to outwardly enjoy it, resulting in people being more comfortable with porn than the real thing, or even worse perversions. I don't think, for example, that it's a coincidence that so many catholic priests have been outed as pedophiles.

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Very good post

[SonofDjugashvili]

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lol. As if the hooker isn't the cheaper/less stressful choice elsewhere in the world.

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Not in such straightforward calculation. For example, I can take a girl out on a nice date here for $100-150 (with 50/50 shot of action on 1st date), whereas a good hooker would probably run $500. Obviously, when you factor in life costs, etc... In Moscow, the numbers are reversed, so it is literally much cheaper.

[adsman]

Morality and sex, huh? OK ...

Italy; Italian girls just do not put out, it's insane. You want to know the reason that Italian guys go crazy for flabby college girls coming to Italy on a backpacking holiday? This is the reason. Whenever I need a dose of sexual reality, I just pop over to any other country in Europe. Spain, Sweden and Poland are particularly good. I have no problem scoring girls, but in the eight years I have been in Italy I have only slept with two Italian women. All my Italian friends complain about this. If any of you come over to visit me, don't expect me to get you laid.

Italians do so many things so well. The cuisine, the wine, the cities, the buildings, the little shops, building cars, making clothes, the list just goes on and on. But they can not drive for sh*t. I'm not talking in the cities, I'm talking about outside the major zones. You can be driving down a road at 70mph and a car will just pull out 50 meters in front of you and then drive away at 15mph. This happens to me every day, about 1000 times a day. They seriously suck.

Africa;

Do what you want, pay what you feel like paying. That's about it as far as sex goes. But one of the cultural differences that I found interesting in Africa was that it is very bad form to eat in a public place, like walking down the street, etc. I did this a couple of times and I was accosted every 30 seconds by people dressing me down for it. I don't know if this was because they were all starving or because I had ketchup all over my chin, but they sure didn't appreciate it.

[PokerJans]

adsman,

I was in Rome two weeks ago and I agree that people are terrible drivers. It would be very interesting to see some statistic about how many people are killed every year driving around on their bikes.

Also coming from someone who has previously only been to Switzerland I must say I was rather disappointed with the whole Italian experience.

In Rome, Florence, + Venice the menu at every resturant was nearly exactly the same. With the expection of some amazing gnocchi and ravioli dishes everything else was fairly standard. Is US cuisine Italian-ized or is the other way around?

Also we would probably wrap up dinner every night at 11ish and then go back to our hotal because nothing else was open! I have a feeling this is just because we were in the tourist part of town but in general every street-side cafe closed at 1130.

I did not notice any hookers - and believe you me I would have paid! and then double bagged it!

One final thought is that I was absolutely disgusted about my mother's and my aunt + uncle's lack of effort to speak the Italian language. They booked this trip in total, bought like 10 "Learn Italian" books and the only thing they could spit out was 'Il canto per favor'(the check please) in a George Bushish accent.

At one point I offered 50 euro to the first person who could put together a full sentence and order a meal in Italian. They never even tried.

[fatgirl_lover]

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I grew up in Russia till the age of 13 and I can tell you that comparing Russia to Dominican is like comparing chess to go fish.

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coudl you please elaborate on this

[fatgirl_lover]

"The reason the porn industry is so big here is because of the suffocating religious atmosphere. Sex, sexuality and the human body itself is so vilified that many people in this country have a pretty warped sexuality. "

in the grand scheme of things (compared to the grand total of all countries in the world, and how societies operated in the past), is the Unites States and sexuality really an atmosphere of "suffocating"?

[fatgirl_lover]

very interesting thread topic. you should alert the "ask degen about thialand" people. sex in thailand is very different, one of the things i thought that was strangest was how there wasn't really a dividing line between prostitues and non prostitutes. i dont understand what they're thinking and hopefully others can explain that but it seems like the opposite of italy where if you have money pretty much everyone is game. maybe not explicit pay for sex but take them out to dinner and take care of them. thai girls also disliked thai guys, maybe it's only about the money but when i asked they said... farangs were more handsome, that thai men are irresponsible and selfish, stuff like that.

there's a ton to talk about in this thread (lol), as others have said not much focus...

[unbluffable]

yes, absolutely. It is amazing how unadvanced (is this a word) US is sexually. I'll let others elaborate, but will add my thoughts on the subject later.

About Russia - i mean, what can I say. The two countries couldn't be more different. Here, women want your money. this is it. Even dominican men have to pay for sex, which is ridiculous, although considering how bad they are in bed (just what i heard, no experience) they prob should be paying anyway. In russia, girls are obsessed with the concept of love. Almost all of my female friends say they're "in love". Girls get married young, and almost always for love. Poor russians have no problems with women, especially young girls, if they have some game.

Ask me specific questions and I'll elaborate.

[adsman]

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In Rome, Florence, + Venice the menu at every resturant was nearly exactly the same. With the expection of some amazing gnocchi and ravioli dishes everything else was fairly standard. Is US cuisine Italian-ized or is the other way around?



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You got stuck in all the tourist traps. Same thing happened to Mr Wookie when he came to Venice last year. The best way to get around this is to find a nice barman and ask him where he goes to eat. I just laugh when I take people to a major Italian city and start leading them down back alleys and dimly lit streets to what appears to be a grimy door that upon entering you are sure to be dismembered and stuck in a fridge. Instead they get the best meal of their lives.

Stay away from large piazza's and groups of people following somebody holding a flag.