AQ in 3bet pot vs active guy

YesMehFriend · #1 09-13-2007, 01:45 PM

The villain in this hand was quite active pf (raising a bit from lp / stealing) he was like 31/24 after 24 hands at the time we played this hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($24.65)
Button ($32.10)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($25.45)
UTG ($20.75)
MP ($29.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, MP folds, Button calls $2.75.

Flop: ($8.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button calls $6.

Turn: ($20.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ...

Is the flop bet-size ok? The texture looks quite good for me and what's my plan for the turn?
What pf-calling range can we assign to such a player (seemed quite solid up to that point)? Is a hand like KQ in his range? And should I be 3betting this? - haven't seen a showdown from him up to now ...

faarcyde · #2 09-13-2007, 01:51 PM

Flop bet is standard. I continue betting on the turn here a lot of the time given the board texture. Watch him call down with KQ, KJ, KT, J9, etc. Only thing I am worried about at this point is AK, although he would have probably raised that on the flop. If he raises the turn that will put you to a tough decision, but no point letting up when you hit.

YesMehFriend · #3 09-13-2007, 01:55 PM

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Flop bet is standard. I continue betting on the turn here a lot of the time given the board texture. Watch him call down with KQ, KJ, KT, J9, etc. Only thing I am worried about at this point is AK, although he would have probably raised that on the flop. If he raises the turn that will put you to a tough decision, but no point letting up when you hit.

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I've 15$ left in a 20$ pot - if I bet (shove) the turn there is no decision to make if he raises ...

Edit: so you think he calls the turn with a hand like KJ?

Idaho_Angler · #4 09-13-2007, 01:57 PM

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Flop bet is standard. I continue betting on the turn here a lot of the time given the board texture. Watch him call down with KQ, KJ, KT, J9, etc. Only thing I am worried about at this point is AK, although he would have probably raised that on the flop. If he raises the turn that will put you to a tough decision, but no point letting up when you hit.

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any bet by HERO on turn puts himself all-in -- no?

I check the turn 50% of the time to induce a bluff and bet 50% of the time for value. I think an under pair is in his range 10-10 JJ QQ

Kasane · #5 09-13-2007, 01:58 PM

Ugh, but whatever. Hero will be committed on turn no matter what he bets. He's only got 3/4 of a psb left.

The A may have been your worst card, because I think it commits you -- Villain is not calling with anything you beat, and he has almost no outs if you're ahead. I think we c/c, get him to bluff the A if he has JJ/QQ/KQ, some other crap, or likes to float because if he had a legit hand on the flop he's still ahead (AK, sets).

If the turn whiffs, bet small on river and JJ/QQ will call.

Don't expect to win this all that often.

faarcyde · #6 09-13-2007, 01:59 PM

Okay my bad.

Well, my opinion then is if you are c-betting with air on the flop, and you hit on the turn, what are you going to do? Fold? Given the amount in the pot I don't think he is going to be checking through twice given that he appears competent and aware of position. So I guess I am saying shove and hope he calls with KQ, JJ, QQ?

CyberianBull · #7 09-13-2007, 02:01 PM

I 3-bet this quite often -- especially if his steal blind % is >25.
His flop call can be 1010-QQ, KQ. Although QQ-AA are 4-betting you here IMO. AK is definately in his range but I think he would raise your c-bet. Firing this turn makes you committed, and you are not beating much if you are raised. So I like checking this turn and calling a smallish bet on the river.

Keitan · #8 09-13-2007, 02:09 PM

I'd consider betting about 1/2 pot to induce a desperation bluff. AK defintely makes up big part of villain's range but I think you're still ahead most of the time and you can't get away here.. so you might as well try to extract as much as you can from weaker hands.

YesMehFriend · #9 09-13-2007, 02:23 PM

I didn't like to bet the turn since I expected most hands I beat to fold to my turn shove (and a 10$ bet is a shove - he realizes that for sure).
So I checked and villain put in a 5$ bet. That was really surprising since he seemed solid up to now - never made anything than 1/2 pot bet.
So what do we do? Call - shove - fold?

simple1248 · #10 09-13-2007, 02:42 PM

I think the squirly bastard is attempting a value bet on this turn. He wants you to go all in. You probably have to shove.