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#21
11-15-2007, 04:49 AM
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Re: Monster draw that comes up short (Nl1000)
The reason to bet is if better draws (that wont call river) make up a big enough portion of his range
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#22
11-15-2007, 05:04 AM
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Re: Monster draw that comes up short (Nl1000)
i can only see a few better draws he could have.. KQh/KJh/QJh. of course if you check and he bets, it doesn't really matter if his draw is weaker or stronger because you can't call. i'm kind of torn here. if you think he can fold AT-AJ a fair amount of the time, shoving seems alright. i'm probably just giving up here but idk if that's a leak
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#23
11-15-2007, 05:07 AM
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Re: Monster draw that comes up short (Nl1000)
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[ QUOTE ] also pot/overbet flop pot/overbet (shove turn) [/ QUOTE ] this is so pointless unless you do this as your normal line..... [/ QUOTE ] no you should only do this when you have straight flush draws actually, its so bad with AK for example
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#24
11-15-2007, 07:13 AM
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Re: Monster draw that comes up short (Nl1000)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] also pot/overbet flop pot/overbet (shove turn) [/ QUOTE ] this is so pointless unless you do this as your normal line..... [/ QUOTE ] no you should only do this when you have straight flush draws actually, its so bad with AK for example [/ QUOTE ] You don't see how that might be slightly exploitable?
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#25
11-15-2007, 07:14 AM
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Re: Monster draw that comes up short (Nl1000)
Ok, i shoved river and he snapped me with AQ...
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#26
11-15-2007, 07:19 AM
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Re: Monster draw that comes up short (Nl1000)
his hand looks a lot like AJ and I don't hink he lays it down to a <psb on the river. You can get him to lay down missed draws, but does he often continue with draws on the turn ?
I would ch/f river
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#29
11-15-2007, 10:20 AM
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Re: Monster draw that comes up short (Nl1000)
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shoving river is bad- [/ QUOTE ] why? he has a draw alot of the time too, he folds all of them of course. And he will probably fold AT AJ as well. I just wish you bet a bit smaller on flop and turn so we have a slightly bigger bet on river but it doesnt change things too much, you need to shove here some percentage of the time.
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#30
11-15-2007, 12:41 PM
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Re: Monster draw that comes up short (Nl1000)
Oh well, it's not That bad, but I just don't think he's folding river enough once he calls turn on that board. And what makes you think he got a draw a big % of the time? I do not agree with that part. First of all we got hearts ourselves (not to mention the 910), secondly there's a pair on the board that should make him a little scared calling off with.. say hearts. finally ppl tend to fold draws to potsized bets on the turn once they choosed the passive line on the flop.
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