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Old 06-05-2007, 06:08 PM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default Re: i keep changing my plan

neat.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:09 PM
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shouldn't say he's CRUSHING you
it's like [JJ KK AA AK]*11 vs QK*8 and KJ*4
so it's not a raise unless you think his range is wider

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That's a pretty small range for a guy 3-betting a button raise

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You mean on the flop?
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:19 PM
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Against an unknown, just calling down (assuming you don't improve) after getting three-bet on the flop seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:55 PM
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Against an unknown, just calling down (assuming you don't improve) after getting three-bet on the flop seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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You mean just calling down with this turn card, right? Of the turn is a brick, easy raise/calldown, IMO.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:58 PM
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Against an unknown, just calling down (assuming you don't improve) after getting three-bet on the flop seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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KJ3r vs. an SB 3-bettor and you want to just call down a flop 3-bet? i can see changing course on the turn A since AK AJ and AA now beat you, but you definitely have to put more bets in with this hand.

giving him a very tight flop 3-betting range of AA AK KQ KJ KK and JJ, you have the best hand almost 80% of the time. you have the best hand or are splitting a massive 93% of the time.
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: i keep changing my plan

yup what he said.... calling down the 3bet on that board and not raising the turn is missing a lot of value even if u always call down a 3bet and always lose.

i dont raise the turn or river in OP, moron factor is not enuff and we dont have the equity against a normal range ( i think AA AK KQ KJ KK and JJ isnt a tight range after his 3bet preflop and on the flop its a normal one)
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:00 AM
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i'm 99% sure that if you do the math you are behind more often than not on that turn. also consider that some hands can find a fold if you raise that turn...qq, kt, maybe kq etc.
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